Hi guys,
I would like input on the possibility of getting GH-induced insulin sensitivity from three months of 4.8iu/day GH. Or could it simply be too many carbs? Or combination of both?
I've been on GH for over three years straight at 1-2iu daily, and my non-fasting glucose ranged from 63-118, with a three year average of 95. Hemoglobin A1C at 5.0 (normal). I stopped training in mid-2019.
In early July, I started heavy training again, went back to five meal per day diet (from two), increased to 4.8iu GH daily, and glucose has increased steadily on my last four blood draws. My A1C was 6.0 (prediabetes, the lab reference range is 4.0-5.6) on Friday. So, my glucose has gone up and I'd like input on if anyone else has run into this, and if so, what did you do to bring glucose back down. Obviously, the way to figure this out is to manipulate one variable at a time while holding others constant--which I will do--but while that takes time to see the potential effect, I'd like input from others who may have experience here.
Thank you for your time.
Some pertinent info:
49 years old
5'7, 218lbs
training on and off for 33 years
140mg Test/wk TRT
4.8iu GH/day
4/2018 - 2/2021 1-2iu daily Chinese generic GH from a long-time PM sponsor, IGF-1 bloodwork shows I get approximately 70 point increase in IGF-1 per iu.
2/2021 - 7/2021 1-2iu daily Norditropin flex pro (Rx from endo)
7/2021 - current 4.8iu daily Norditropin flex pro (Rx from endo)
Meal 1: 8oz ground turkey, 1 cup plain oatmeal/cream of rice
Meal 2: 8oz ground turkey or chicken breast, 1.5 cups white rice
Meal 3: (pre-workout) 50g whey isolate, 1 cup plain oatmeal/cream of rice
Meal 4: (post-workout) 50g whey isolate, 40-50g simple carbs (fruit, sometimes Gatorade)
Meal 5: 8oz protein (chicken, fish, steak, turkey), 1.5 cups white rice
Glucose (from recent blood draws)
04/21 94
05/21 87
06/21 90
07/21 103
08/21 124
09/21 131
10/21 152 (additional test showed 24hr average glucose at 125.5 [ref range 68.0-126.0])
I do 14-16 blood draws per year it's a little more than one per month
I have a phlebotomy about every six weeks to reduce hematocrit
blood pressure controlled
kidney function compromised (eGFR hovers in the 50s)
Thanks again, guys--I appreciate any insight you could offer.
S
I would like input on the possibility of getting GH-induced insulin sensitivity from three months of 4.8iu/day GH. Or could it simply be too many carbs? Or combination of both?
I've been on GH for over three years straight at 1-2iu daily, and my non-fasting glucose ranged from 63-118, with a three year average of 95. Hemoglobin A1C at 5.0 (normal). I stopped training in mid-2019.
In early July, I started heavy training again, went back to five meal per day diet (from two), increased to 4.8iu GH daily, and glucose has increased steadily on my last four blood draws. My A1C was 6.0 (prediabetes, the lab reference range is 4.0-5.6) on Friday. So, my glucose has gone up and I'd like input on if anyone else has run into this, and if so, what did you do to bring glucose back down. Obviously, the way to figure this out is to manipulate one variable at a time while holding others constant--which I will do--but while that takes time to see the potential effect, I'd like input from others who may have experience here.
Thank you for your time.
Some pertinent info:
49 years old
5'7, 218lbs
training on and off for 33 years
140mg Test/wk TRT
4.8iu GH/day
4/2018 - 2/2021 1-2iu daily Chinese generic GH from a long-time PM sponsor, IGF-1 bloodwork shows I get approximately 70 point increase in IGF-1 per iu.
2/2021 - 7/2021 1-2iu daily Norditropin flex pro (Rx from endo)
7/2021 - current 4.8iu daily Norditropin flex pro (Rx from endo)
Meal 1: 8oz ground turkey, 1 cup plain oatmeal/cream of rice
Meal 2: 8oz ground turkey or chicken breast, 1.5 cups white rice
Meal 3: (pre-workout) 50g whey isolate, 1 cup plain oatmeal/cream of rice
Meal 4: (post-workout) 50g whey isolate, 40-50g simple carbs (fruit, sometimes Gatorade)
Meal 5: 8oz protein (chicken, fish, steak, turkey), 1.5 cups white rice
Glucose (from recent blood draws)
04/21 94
05/21 87
06/21 90
07/21 103
08/21 124
09/21 131
10/21 152 (additional test showed 24hr average glucose at 125.5 [ref range 68.0-126.0])
I do 14-16 blood draws per year it's a little more than one per month
I have a phlebotomy about every six weeks to reduce hematocrit
blood pressure controlled
kidney function compromised (eGFR hovers in the 50s)
Thanks again, guys--I appreciate any insight you could offer.
S