16 Weeks - Human Performance Optimization (200 Test, 400 EQ, 200+ DHB, EPO, GH, IGF)

[Performance Based]

Quite literally just got my full panel done - should have results tomorrow in the AM.

Correct - I’ve never really messed with AIs. I’ve also only ever just monitored estrogen on my panels. Usually in the bottom quarter but in range mate.

I am quite shocked with how quick my hematocrit dropped off.

 

[Performance Based]

June 20 hematocrit of 49
EPO (1,500 IU) administered After test
June 21 hematocrit of 53.3

Prior to June 20 the last dosage was administered on June 17.

Surprisingly prolactin is within range. Bloods attached.

 

[Cerberus777]

I'd of definitely checked prolactin because it's easier to deal with. Anything that inhibits Glutamate and loweres GABA will make it harder to climax. Its the same reason as being drunk and not able to nut. I have this issue with EQ. Maybe DHB is similar. Adding a DHT can increase GABA and one of the reasons people do well on adding it to a cycle. I've had good results with EQ and Mast.

 

[Performance Based]

Todays training session

30 elliptical
6 rounds
Bench Press x 15 at 205 move as fast as possible
Push-ups 35 explosive
Reverse nordics x 10
Lower Ab scissors x 40

5 rounds
Explosive Med ball tosses and catches on back x 8
50lb Med ball sit ups x 5
Bench dips x 40
Tricep over head extensions x 20

Swim attached

During warm up my pace per 25M was at 38 seconds, usually 33-34 with zero effort.

Lungs feel extremely heavy - hate to say it but DHB simply may not be the compound for me. Going to drop to 100mg per week and feel it out for a bit to give some feed back.

BPM is usually 88-93 on warm ups was over 114 today peaking at 123.

 

[goback2013]

Todays training session

30 elliptical
6 rounds
Bench Press x 15 at 205 move as fast as possible
Push-ups 35 explosive
Reverse nordics x 10
Lower Ab scissors x 40

5 rounds
Explosive Med ball tosses and catches on back x 8
50lb Med ball sit ups x 5
Bench dips x 40
Tricep over head extensions x 20

Swim attached

During warm up my pace per 25M was at 38 seconds, usually 33-34 with zero effort.

Lungs feel extremely heavy - hate to say it but DHB simply may not be the compound for me. Going to drop to 100mg per week and feel it out for a bit to give some feed back.

BPM is usually 88-93 on warm ups was over 114 today peaking at 123.

i was thinking the same today.. think my DHB has just started to build up, and now breathing feels a bit heavier(as you say) during daily runs.
just the other day i was feeling fluid and in the groove. today, felt very labored.
i'm dialing it back as well.
in the end, i feel i'm just going to land on test, mast, gh.

 

[Cerberus777]

Test Mast and Bold doesn't give me the heavy feeling and slow me down.

 

[Performance Based]

i was thinking the same today.. think my DHB has just started to build up, and now breathing feels a bit heavier(as you say) during daily runs.
just the other day i was feeling fluid and in the groove. today, felt very labored.
i'm dialing it back as well.
in the end, i feel i'm just going to land on test, mast, gh.

What protocols do you guys run your masteron at? Any affect on hydration or micronutrient retention?

I tried a singular shot of 200mg of tren E around 5-6 months ago. Wrecked my ability to retain sodium and water.

 

[Cerberus777]

I start Low. I have low SHBG so I need to ramp up anyway. I start with 105mg Mast(15mg daily)175mg test and 175 bold. after a week I'll add more mast if not cramping up. But most the time I'm good there.

 

[Performance Based]

First day back since my lateral soleus acted up so easing back into it

Update
Sprints
30 Min elevated walk warm up
Mobility drills/stretches
2x25 seconds at 5 min mile pace + 25 seconds at 6min mile pace
2x 45 seconds at 5 min mile pace + 45 seconds at 6 min mile pace
2x105 seconds at 4:30 min mile pace + 25 seconds at 6 min mile pace
4x30 seconds at 4 min mile pace (rolling starts)

Swim attached

Also just snagged a curved treadmill - going to start some small distance runs on it to phase into my zero drops.

 

[Performance Based]

Training
Friday June 24
35 Walk
Stretches + Mobility
2x30 seconds 5min pace + 30 seconds 6min pace
2x45 seconds 5min pace +30 seconds 6min pace
2x40 seconds 4 min mile pace
And then my body said fuck you homie - no mas

Saturday June 25

Strength
10 Sauna
30 Elliptical
7 rounds
Jerk Pressx20
Banded pull upsx10
Upright barbell row x10
Swinging dumbbell press x10
4 rounds
10x banded pull ups
20x banded pull ups
15x per side banded twists
60x banded push ups

Swim - Time under tension day
10 Sauna
3x75 D/D/S
12x50 w/ fins breath cadence pyramid
2x200 CSS
2x100 Free w/ fins
2x50 CSS
2x50 Free style


Breath patterns
2, 4, 4, 6, 4, 2, 4, 6, 4, 6, 8, 6


Note - DHB not being so pronounced in my system as I am a week from last shot - I feel infinitely better, more athletic and “lighter”.

DHB my upper body got extremely vascular however nearly all vascularity in my legs left. Starting to creep back in which is strange. Almost like they just completely swelled up with glycogen and were holding heaps of water.

I was far more aggressive and downright irritable on DHB, much more calm and level headed now. @SOUR DIESEL you sure this stuff is only 100mg/ml ? Haha

Affect on cardio was much less pronounced I will admit than tren at the same dosage.

 

[goback2013]

Training
Friday June 24
35 Walk
Stretches + Mobility
2x30 seconds 5min pace + 30 seconds 6min pace
2x45 seconds 5min pace +30 seconds 6min pace
2x40 seconds 4 min mile pace
And then my body said fuck you homie - no mas

Saturday June 25

Strength
10 Sauna
30 Elliptical
7 rounds
Jerk Pressx20
Banded pull upsx10
Upright barbell row x10
Swinging dumbbell press x10
4 rounds
10x banded pull ups
20x banded pull ups
15x per side banded twists
60x banded push ups

Swim - Time under tension day
10 Sauna
3x75 D/D/S
12x50 w/ fins breath cadence pyramid
2x200 CSS
2x100 Free w/ fins
2x50 CSS
2x50 Free style


Breath patterns
2, 4, 4, 6, 4, 2, 4, 6, 4, 6, 8, 6


Note - DHB not being so pronounced in my system as I am a week from last shot - I feel infinitely better, more athletic and “lighter”.

DHB my upper body got extremely vascular however nearly all vascularity in my legs left. Starting to creep back in which is strange. Almost like they just completely swelled up with glycogen and were holding heaps of water.

I was far more aggressive and downright irritable on DHB, much more calm and level headed now. @SOUR DIESEL you sure this stuff is only 100mg/ml ? Haha

Affect on cardio was much less pronounced I will admit than tren at the same dosage.

I wasn't aggressive but certainly much tighter all over.
Like you much more vascular all over.
I too dropped my dose and feel much lighter as well.
I prefer being mobile and fluid as opposed to tight and not as fluid.
I'm still running DHB as i like the libido boost and alpha feeling.
Now at
500mg test per week
125 DHB
125 mast

Really liking this course well outside the last week of having higher concentrations of DHB flowing through my system.

 

[Performance Based]

I wasn't aggressive but certainly much tighter all over.
Like you much more vascular all over.
I too dropped my dose and feel much lighter as well.
I prefer being mobile and fluid as opposed to tight and not as fluid.
I'm still running DHB as i like the libido boost and alpha feeling.
Now at
500mg test per week
125 DHB
125 mast

Really liking this course well outside the last week of having higher concentrations of DHB flowing through my system.

How does that much test affect your cardio output mate? I haven’t gone over 200 test since 2013. I honestly don’t remember the experience.

Just remember me constantly being off my damn rocker on tren - a straight psychopath.

 

[Performance Based]

Sunday June 26

Sprints and Leg day

Training
Sprints
30 Incline Walk
5 flexibility
5 Min Pace
2x100
2x200
4:30 Pace
2x100
2x200
4:00 Pace
2x200 —-> couldn’t get my gait right
5:00 pace
2x600



Directly into strength - 1 energy gel + PB packet
Rear elevated split squats jumps 5x8 + BW SLDL 5x8
4 rounds 30 forward + back walking lunges no weight - firing patterns - move explosively but controlled
3 rounds knees over toes guy routine
5x6 Jumping deep squats @315

Notes: Last EPO shot was Friday, can definitely “feel” the difference on sprints when it is “fresh” in the system. Perceived effort was about 20% higher without it than with it.

Will get bloods done tomorrow morning and again Tuesday morning.

 

[demon]

How does that much test affect your cardio output mate? I haven’t gone over 200 test since 2013. I honestly don’t remember the experience.

Just remember me constantly being off my damn rocker on tren - a straight psychopath.

Any experience utilizing AICAR or Cardarine to increase athletic performance?

 

[Performance Based]

Any experience utilizing AICAR or Cardarine to increase athletic performance?

I've used GW/Cardarine substantially - tried injectible Aicar a while back but didn't notice anything from it (was paired with GW).

GW works 100% but my results seem to vary dramatically. I have always used the same supplier but its' no "magic pill". First cycle with it was great. Seems to sort of wear off after about two weeks.

 

[demon]

I've used GW/Cardarine substantially - tried injectible Aicar a while back but didn't notice anything from it (was paired with GW).

GW works 100% but my results seem to vary dramatically. I have always used the same supplier but its' no "magic pill". First cycle with it was great. Seems to sort of wear off after about two weeks.

what was your sweet spot for GW/Cardarine dosing? It seems like majority of the people that respond well to GW/Cardarine say 20mg.

 

[Performance Based]

Honestly always 20mg. The cancer stuff scares me on it a bit so tend to be pretty conservative honestly.

I would definitely recommend it - I enjoyed it mostly for slow steady state cardio (marathon prep) for anaerobic/lactate threshold work I don’t think it’s worth much though I will admit.

 

[Cerberus777]

I'm experimenting with GW only on days of long max effort stuff. So once a week and definitely see a huge difference in endurance. You don't get the lipid benefits but it doesn't loose its effects.

 

[Performance Based]

I'm experimenting with GW only on days of long max effort stuff. So once a week and definitely see a huge difference in endurance. You don't get the lipid benefits but it doesn't loose its effects.

I’m leaning this way as well, pulsing compounds purely based upon that days intrinsic needs.

Really love the idea honestly.


Took my shot for this upcoming week, ONLY 200 test/400 EQ

 

[danieltx]

Do you put these workouts together yourself?