18 years old infertility help

[Swifto]

Looking at your back posts, you took Proviron, HCG, Testosterone booster and MK-677. You complain about having small balls back on 8/11/18 too. All at 18 years old. No wonder you are so fucked up. :naughty:

Its getting harder and harder to detect trolls!

 

[pahlevan]

Hi, guys. I need your help..
I am 18 years old and about 1 year ago I tried to increase my penis size by running a 7 week DHT cycle using a topical gel.
I was seeing a progressive increase in penis size and increased beard and hair growth but at the seventh week I stopped because I saw my balls shrink and I became worried.
Since then, I saw andrologists and doctors and explained everything, I did blood tests and LH, FSH, T were in the low limit but all the andrologists told me to wait 6-8 months, not to take anything and that I would come back well in the long run.
It's been 11 months since I stopped DHT but my balls are still shrunk and almost nothing is recovered... I'm not as well as before...

I did sperm tests two months ago and the parameters are bad
Volume : 4.0 ml
Continence : 62 hours
Ph : 7.5
WBC : 300/ul
Total sperm count (TSC): 15.0 Million/ml
Progressive Motility : 20%
Normal forms : 16%.
Motile sperm concentration (MSC) : 3.0mil/ml
Functional sperm concentration (FSC) : 1.2 mil/ml
Sperm motility index (SMI): 45
DNA fragmentation index (DFI) : 27%
Hyaluronic Binding Assay (HBA) : 50%.

I also did the blood tests 1 month ago and the results are:
TT : 6.0 ng/ml Inhibin B : 217.2 pg/ml
E2 : 41 pg/ml Prolactin : 9.5 ng/ml
LH : 5.0 AMH : 18.9 ng/ml (very high)
FSH : 1.9

The only values that have slightly recovered in these months are LH before (March) 4.0, now 5.0, TT before 4.8, now 6.0, Prolactin before 21.5, now 9.5 but FSH has remained the same before 1.9, now 1.9 and also the testicle size has almost not changed.

Guys, what can I do now to try to recover my previous fertility and testicular size?
I read about low-dose HCG for a few weeks to restore first the testicle size and then Nolvadex for other weeks to recover the HPTA.
I don't know what to do and I have been worried for almost a year...

Thank you so much to those who will try to help me.

Why are you worried about kids at 18? No Rush!! Lol
HCG and clomid

 

[foxman101]

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Take 6 of these a day .. 3 at night .. 3 in the morning..

Head over to MA research and pick up a clomid and nolvadex ...
You’ll need these for your research.


Do 30 days of research..

Then come back and let us know how things are going

 

[goingstronger]

Hi, guys. I need your help..
I am 18 years old and about 1 year ago I tried to increase my penis size by running a 7 week DHT cycle using a topical gel.
I was seeing a progressive increase in penis size and increased beard and hair growth but at the seventh week I stopped because I saw my balls shrink and I became worried.
Since then, I saw andrologists and doctors and explained everything, I did blood tests and LH, FSH, T were in the low limit but all the andrologists told me to wait 6-8 months, not to take anything and that I would come back well in the long run.
It's been 11 months since I stopped DHT but my balls are still shrunk and almost nothing is recovered... I'm not as well as before...

I did sperm tests two months ago and the parameters are bad
Volume : 4.0 ml
Continence : 62 hours
Ph : 7.5
WBC : 300/ul
Total sperm count (TSC): 15.0 Million/ml
Progressive Motility : 20%
Normal forms : 16%.
Motile sperm concentration (MSC) : 3.0mil/ml
Functional sperm concentration (FSC) : 1.2 mil/ml
Sperm motility index (SMI): 45
DNA fragmentation index (DFI) : 27%
Hyaluronic Binding Assay (HBA) : 50%.

I also did the blood tests 1 month ago and the results are:
TT : 6.0 ng/ml Inhibin B : 217.2 pg/ml
E2 : 41 pg/ml Prolactin : 9.5 ng/ml
LH : 5.0 AMH : 18.9 ng/ml (very high)
FSH : 1.9

The only values that have slightly recovered in these months are LH before (March) 4.0, now 5.0, TT before 4.8, now 6.0, Prolactin before 21.5, now 9.5 but FSH has remained the same before 1.9, now 1.9 and also the testicle size has almost not changed.

Guys, what can I do now to try to recover my previous fertility and testicular size?
I read about low-dose HCG for a few weeks to restore first the testicle size and then Nolvadex for other weeks to recover the HPTA.
I don't know what to do and I have been worried for almost a year...

Thank you so much to those who will try to help me.

Your testosterone and e2 levels are in range, that's all you need to worry about.

As others said, do you really care about being fertile at 18?

And how do you even know you were not infertile to begin with? Had you measured your sperm count before the DHT experiment?
Maybe the AAS usage has nothing to do with your infertility.

Just wait until you are 21 and get another fertility test.

 

[Deleted member 121863]

Ok, now my serious post for people are that are actually concerned about low sperm. My friend did this while getting sperm count checked regularly.
First: Stop all AAS.
Then HCG 1200-1800 EOD, clomid 25mg/day, adex .5mg 3 x a week. Liquid L-carnitine 3g daily. In 62 days he went from 0 sperm to 45 million! He was miserable the whole time, low T bitch, but it worked.

 

[LK3]

lol
:lightbulb:
isnt this like darwinism in action?
maybe better dude is sterile... no?
:lightbulb:
:star-w:rs
:welcome:

 

[Kaladryn]

Here is what I'm thinking, I'd take this idea to your doctor and see if he agrees.

Your body is trying to come back online, it is increasing LH which means that GNRH is being stimulated (by a lack of E2). GNRH is what stimulates LH and FSH production. How is one stimulated and not the other? Pulsatile GNRH secretions cause FSH production, stead state GNRH production produces more LH. Your body isn't pulsing GNRH, it is trying to steadily increase GNRH to bring test levels back online, once test levels climb to homeostasis, then you will slowly start to see more FSH production and more sperm, maybe.

And a piece of advice, never, ever worry about your ball size.

 

[Lobo99]

I ran a 7-week DHT cycle, the pituitary gland stopped pulsing LH and my testicles stopped working during those 7 weeks.
It has been 1 year now but my testicular size and sperm has not improved.
My hypothesis is that my testicles (especially the receptors in the leydig cells) became desensitized to LH as they did not received any LH signals for 7 weeks.
I found an article that could confirm this hypothesis
**broken link removed**

The blood tests of 2 months ago say :
LH : 5.0
FSH : 1.9
TT : 6.0 ng/ml
E2 : 41 pg/ml
Inhibin B : 217.2 pg/ml
AMH : 18.9 ng/ml (very high)
Prolactin : 9.5 ng/ml
My testicular sizes are 12 ml and 10.5 ml.
The fact that LH (5.0) is high compared to Testosterone (6.0), suggests that leydig cells do not respond as they should to LH signal in producing testosterone.
This supports the hypothesis of Leydig cells desensitized to LH...

I wonder if HCG can resensitize Leydig cell receptors to LH.
You can read a lot about HCG dosages to reverse testicular atrophy but I am confused...

The things to avoid would be
- Over stimulation of LH receptors with HCG because can further desensitize LH receptors (not good for recover).
- Over stimulation of LH receptors with HCG because raises intratesticular E2 too much which cannot be managed with anastrozole (not good for recover).

I found a study on rats...
https://academic.oup.com/biolreprod/.../2/383/2768135

Tell me yours, thank you very much.

 

[Pissbrainiac259]

This might be the single best quote on promuscle

:yeahthat:

 

[saffire]

15 Million, while below the normal range are plenty to get someone pregnant. There really is absolutely no reasons to be stressed about this now or for down the road. I tested sub 1 million and later had a kid with hcg use. Male infertility issues (if you have some sperm production) are easily correctable when it's time to try to conceive.

Imo, stress more about general testicular recover and premature dht/steroid use, than fertility. If you want to have a kid, you'll be able to.

Sparing had sperm count like under 5mil, during contest prep ( he never used hcg,hmg or clomid ), still got wife pregnant, lol, i wouldn't be worried about that at 18yo, keep your test at normal level and you are g2g

 

[graybass]

I got the sure fire cure.
#1 shut your brain off
#2 Go to the gym, learn how to build muscles.
#3 Do healthy amounts of cardio.
#4 Learn about nutrition (Protein is what muscle are made of)

#5 Stop all this crazy drug protocol you need nothing at 18.

Call back in a year.

Funny post I saw. This generation thinks they know everything. They can't even start a lawnmower.

 

[Lobo99]

Guys,
1 year ago before I took that DHT gel, my testicles were bigger and fuller, my ejaculate was bigger and denser, my erections were more frequent and more intense.
I'm sure.
I know, I only fucked myself, I fucked my life, I was a fool.
It's been 1 year since I took that damn gel but my balls haven't recovered their size, their current measured volume is 10.5 and 12ml.
Before DHT they were about 16-17ml.
On March 11th I have an appointment with a new andrologist and I hope he can help me...
I wonder, is there anything I can do to recover the size of my balls, my sperm etc.?
I read about HCG, HMG, Nolvadex, Clomid but I'm afraid to do more harm, I haven't taken anything since I stopped DHT.
I'm only 18 years old and can something help me? I'm depressed.

 

[Adr805]

Bro youre 18, id only worry about this if youre trying to get someone pregnant. Are you really trying to have a kid at 18? If you are sounds itresponsible. Go see your endo tell em everything yoi took. I think in time everthing will bounce back to normal. And you took on the chance this shit might happen. So youll just have to deal with it for now. Back when i was 18 i took some ph called msten didnt even know what it was but this was when ph’s were normal. My dick barely worked for probably 6 months. Didnt know what i was doing either. Gotta deal with the consequences. And if youre on any aas you need to come off. Bring up hcg, clomid to your endo and see what they say. But theyre probably gonna say the same shit that if youre not trying to knock anyone up or dont have ed theyll probably tell you to come back when youre older. Just got to deal with what you did to yourself.

 

[Elvia1023]

but my balls haven't recovered their size, their current measured volume is 10.5 and 12ml.
Before DHT they were about 16-17ml.

You measured your balls before starting your gel cycle

 

[maldorf]

You measured your balls before starting your gel cycle

I was wondering how you would go about doing that. Maybe dip them in a big graduated cylinder and measure the volume of water displaced!? I guess you could measure the circumference of each nut and then do a mathematical calculation. Maybe measure the diameter would work too.

 

[Elvia1023]

I was wondering how you would go about doing that. Maybe dip them in a big graduated cylinder and measure the volume of water displaced!? I guess you could measure the circumference of each nut and then do a mathematical calculation. Maybe measure the diameter would work too.

I don't think he even realizes that on a steroid board his 10.5ml and 12ml balls are probably massive