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19 years old looking to compete next year

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Have been dieting for a while now and gonna continue until I have abs.

Im planing to compete next year in december so obviously I need to put on a hell of a lot of mass and improve all muscle groups this fall and the coming spring. But if you guys can give me some construvtice critiscism I would appriciate it If any can be given considering the ammounts of fat I have.
 

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Im 5¨11 and 190ibs in those pics, want to be in competition shape at around 176-180 december 2005
 
Thanks!

Yeah Im in desperat need of a tan. Unfortunaly Im a true swede and the sun only makes me red:(
 
keep training hard and welcome to the board
 
I like you were mentioned that you wanted to get thicker but did not mention anything about taking drugs to help you get there. I wish more young people our age had that mentality. You do have good balance. The only area you really lack in (in comparison with others) are your shoulders. good luck.
 
weight77 said:
I like you were mentioned that you wanted to get thicker but did not mention anything about taking drugs to help you get there. I wish more young people our age had that mentality. You do have good balance. The only area you really lack in (in comparison with others) are your shoulders. good luck.

I do run cycles but they are very moderate and I dont consider them even half as important as proper diet and workout routine.:eek:

My shoulders are hell, the moment I start doing overhead pressing my chest press strenght goes down dramaticly and if I do it more then 3 weeks in a row my shoulders gets so overtrained that they hurt even when only flexing them. So all I can do for them is side raises:( But it might be because im doing a westside routine and all the other pressing is already exhausting the shoulders. Chest is my other weakspot. My lats and triceps grows like weed though and quads grow pretty good to even though I mainly work hams.
 
How is the west side style going. Have you thought about switching it out for somthing else. You might want to think about incorporating some kind of other shoulder movements. Because IMO your down fall is only donin side raises. You really lack in the front delt and that is probably why. ;)

Could you post your routine and maybe me and some guys can give you some advice to help you get a solid routine. One where you get more shoulder help and maybe we could try and workout a better bench routine to help you bring up your chest. But I will say you back is your strong point. It is very wide.
 
To shoot for competing at 180lbs is quite a stretch. I believe it would be more realistic to try for around 160lbs. Remember that those who usually win the local contests are the leanest guys. For example, just look at how much better Knucklehead looks in his contest pics than the other guys that weighed much more then he. For now, you actually don't look like you are carrying a terribally large amount of bf. You seem to have a large frame and are pretty pale, which can make you look heavier with a higher bf% then you actually have or are. Keep up the hard work!
 
weight77 said:
How is the west side style going. Have you thought about switching it out for somthing else. You might want to think about incorporating some kind of other shoulder movements. Because IMO your down fall is only donin side raises. You really lack in the front delt and that is probably why. ;)

Could you post your routine and maybe me and some guys can give you some advice to help you get a solid routine. One where you get more shoulder help and maybe we could try and workout a better bench routine to help you bring up your chest. But I will say you back is your strong point. It is very wide.

westside is going amazing, I have put on 5kg(11ibs) on my bench and 30+kg(66ibs)on my deadlift while cutting hardcore. But yeah it might be time for a change.

My westside looks like this

Me bench day:
floor press, rack lockouts, inclines, declines, close grip bench. I pick one of those and do 3 reps each set increasing weight until I can do 3 reps anymore then I lower to 1 rep and go until I fail at a 1rm.
Skullcrusher, lockouts, overhead db exstension, dips. I pic one of those and fo 4 heavy sets of 5-6 reps
Any heavy row 4 sets 6 reps
Any side front or rear raise or all three in super set 4*10-12
abs 4*10 and biceps

Me squat day
good morning, or any variation of deadlift or squat I pick one and work upp to a 1rm same as on ME bench day
Hyper exstension, gm's, any kind of pull i pick one and do 4*6
Leg curl or gluteham raise 4*8
Any quad exercise 4*10
calves 4*6-10
abs

DE´bench day
10*3 speed sets of bench at 50%of 1rm
any triceps exercise 4*10(sometimes I do db bench or a shoulder press)
any triceps exericse 3*10
any lat exercise 4*10
any shoulder 4*10
abs and biceps

DE squat day
10*2 speed sets of squat at around 50% 1rm
3*2 speed sets of deadlift at around 80%1rm
any gm or pull 4*10
any lower back exercise 4*10
any ham exercise 4*10
any quad 3*10
abs and calves 4*10

Thats roughly how my routine looks but it changes a bit every now and then. Much by how I feel on the particular day.
I realy like to hit all muscle groups twice a week cause I get zero growth from hitting them once a week. Especialy my lats and triceps needs to get hit often or I stagnate.
I am satisfied with the increases in strenght I have made now. I have dropped 36 pounds in bodyweight and at the same time increased all my lifts. Especialy the deadlift as I noted earlier. I think Il continue with something similar to westside until I am done cutting then when bulking Im going to focus on brining upp my lagging bodyparts and thicken upp my good parts alot! So I appriciate any suggestions!
 
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To shoot for competing at 180lbs is quite a stretch. I believe it would be more realistic to try for around 160lbs. Remember that those who usually win the local contests are the leanest guys. For example, just look at how much better Knucklehead looks in his contest pics than the other guys that weighed much more then he. For now, you actually don't look like you are carrying a terribally large amount of bf. You seem to have a large frame and are pretty pale, which can make you look heavier with a higher bf% then you actually have or are. Keep up the hard work!

You are probalby right.
I have not set any comp weight in stone so Il just cut until Im in terrific condition. The scale dont win or lose a competiton anyway :D
But I have 17 months to add mass and get cut so Im aiming at atleast adding 10 quality pounds on my frame. Il focus on the basics this bulk, lots of good quality foods, a moderate cycle(500mg test for 20 weeks 400mg deca for 20 weeks, slin post workout 3 times a week. a-bombs the first 4 weeks then no orals for 4 weeks then d-bol for 4 weeks and cycle those 2 like that)and the proper workout routine.
 
I was thinking about doing something like this when bulking so plz critique this. Its a attempt by me to make a bb routine based on westside

ME bench day
incline bench, decline bench, regular bench, close grip bench, or db work. I pic one and work upp to a 6rm then drop and work to a 3rm
Then I take one of the above and do 3 sets 10 reps
any shoulder press 4*10
skullcrusher, jm or any heavy triceps exercise 4*10
any kind of shoulder raise

ME squat
one week squats one week deadlift work upp to a 6rm then a 3rm and maby a 1rm if I feel the energy for it
gm's, pin pulls, plate pulls, front squats one of those 4*6
Cheat shrughs 4*6
any heavy row 4*6
any biceps 4*10
abs

DE bench
speed bench as warmup around 8 sets
incline decline or flat flyes 3*6-8
dips 3*10
any triceps
any shoulder raise
forearms and abs

DE squat
speed squats as warmup
either leg press or hack squat 3*10
any quad 3*10
any ham 2*10
any lat 4*10
any lat 3*8
biceps 3*10
calves

This routine will pretty much push each and everyone of my muscle groups to its limit without overtraining it. The lats and triceps gets the workload it needs and the chest and shoulders get slightely less but not so much that they get overtrained.
I will also do general gpp work every rest day to keep my recovery as good as possible and make sure I grow good. I hope this will be a succsesfull modification of westside for bb purposes. But any critique is more then welcome!!!

Im not a fan of either hit or volume workouts, I want the right volume for each musclegrup that will put them on the verge of overtraining but not quite. That imo is when maximal growth occurs. The difficult thing is to not step over the limit and get overtrained.
 
vart är lejonmanen!!!

du går på steroider alltså, att gå upp till 90 på 17 månader är ju helt lungt! det klarar du utan steroider och dylikt... skippa cardion och käka meeeeeer istället!
 
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wostok said:
vart är lejonmanen!!!

du går på steroider alltså, att gå upp till 90 på 17 månader är ju helt lungt! det klarar du utan steroider och dylikt... skippa cardion och käka meeeeeer istället!

|--[\\\]>----------That's not chinese?
 
wostok said:
vart är lejonmanen!!!

du går på steroider alltså, att gå upp till 90 på 17 månader är ju helt lungt! det klarar du utan steroider och dylikt... skippa cardion och käka meeeeeer istället!

Lejonmannen???

Nja äter jag mer så blir jag bara fet, gillar mina prepp så dom slutar jag inte med:D

bigbadasian its swedish:cool:
 
just curious, are u bald by choice, or bald by genetics???
 
im almost sure hes bald by choice, i remeber he posted some pics a while back and had hair longer than my GF's.. lol

i like the bald look,

Late,r

todd
 

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