1st cycle advise

[Oblivion]

Guys I'm torn b/w hrt and 1-2cycles/yr

My proposed run if I don't go hrt route
Test prop 300/wk. 1-10
Var 30 ed. 3-7
Ardex 1-10?
Hcg 2-11?

Was also thinking of throwing in thermolife t booster after and some clom
Not looking to get huge as a lot of eyebrows will get raised if I ballon 20plus lbs.

What do you guys think?
Any changes those in the know would recommend

 

[Gunsmith]

keep it small and simple your first time

200-300mg test cyp a week (only need one small shot a week
20mg Nolvadex/Ed whole cycle and 3 weeks after (plenty for the dose above)
250iu HCG last 4 weeks and two weeks after last test shot

try that and see what you get out of it
if you start off high dose or several compounds you will never know whT did what for you

 

[Sepjuice1]

Another suggestion,500mgs of test and something to kickstart it. Ran this as a first cycle and was very satisfied. Cant go wrong with gunsmiths suggestion either.

 

[GetYucked]

Another suggestion,500mgs of test and something to kickstart it. Ran this as a first cycle and was very satisfied. Cant go wrong with gunsmiths suggestion either.

This.

I did tbol for 20 days, and am running 500 mg test E. I take adex .5mg EOD, and will be getting bloodwork sometime next week to see what it's going to me.

 

[Oblivion]

keep it small and simple your first time

200-300mg test cyp a week (only need one small shot a week
20mg Nolvadex/Ed whole cycle and 3 weeks after (plenty for the dose above)
250iu HCG last 4 weeks and two weeks after last test shot

try that and see what you get out of it
if you start off high dose or several compounds you will never know whT did what for you

You are right. KISS right til you know how it feels.

Why c and not e. I heard that e has less pip.

 

[Oblivion]

This.

I did tbol for 20 days, and am running 500 mg test E. I take adex .5mg EOD, and will be getting bloodwork sometime next week to see what it's going to me.

Are you talking about OTC tbol? Did you take this pre test or ran it for the first three weeks?

Would OTC tbol help hcg to bring the boys up to par during pct or would it just be a waste of $

 

[Oblivion]

How much H2O retention do you think I would have with a c or e 10wk run. I don't want to ballon and lose 35-50% as I don't want my colleages to know what's up. I am thinking of running it at 250/wk

Should I have both nolva and adex on hand just incase
Nolva was thinking 40/40/20/20 post. Overkill?

Thanks guys, I appreciate all the info!

 

[ajdonutz]

How much H2O retention do you think I would have with a c or e 10wk run. I don't want to ballon and lose 35-50% as I don't want my colleages to know what's up. I am thinking of running it at 250/wk

Should I have both nolva and adex on hand just incase
Nolva was thinking 40/40/20/20 post. Overkill?

Thanks guys, I appreciate all the info!

Run an AI with it and youll hold much less water

 

[cavdude]

Serms and AI's?

keep it small and simple your first time

200-300mg test cyp a week (only need one small shot a week
20mg Nolvadex/Ed whole cycle and 3 weeks after (plenty for the dose above)
250iu HCG last 4 weeks and two weeks after last test shot

try that and see what you get out of it
if you start off high dose or several compounds you will never know whT did what for you

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i like this protocol also--very safe-simple and basic for a 1st cycle--using an AI such as Adex exclusively-there is a rebound effect once you come off it-although if you do use with your Nolva-consider using Adex as a backup or low dose/e3d or e4d.