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2024 NPC USA

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First off congrats to all of the competitors. Here is a pic from the overall winner, compared to the winner from 30 years ago (granted one is in color and one is in black and white)…thoughts?
 

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He got on stage and the judges thought he was the best up there this weekend. What did you do over the weekend?

Everybody knows what you're getting at so just say it.
 
He got on stage and the judges thought he was the best up there this weekend. What did you do over the weekend?

Everybody knows what you're getting at so just say it.
The winner looked great, but bodybuilding has changed imo. I personally like the smaller more streamlined grainier look but I’m old school.
 
It's all about the lineup of competitors that show up and who is the best "among them".
 
It's all about the lineup of competitors that show up and who is the best "among them".
Agreed.

It’s like the academy awards. It is for the best ‘performance’ that year, not who is the best actor. There might be better actors out there but not that year.
 
That’s Austin Bultman. I know him personally! A couple years ago we did the same regional level show. I do men’s physique and I won the open and masters overall and Austin won the bodybuilding overall as a super heavyweight beating out my best friend and training partner that was a heavyweight. That picture doesn’t do Austin justice……he is built like a brick shit house in person! Super nice guy also. Me and my buddy hung out with him backstage that whole day. I believe Austin is my age 41-42 something like that. He also has some pretty impressive powerlifting wins.
 
If this thread is passive aggressively trying to say “old school guys just looked better”… what is the point?

Are you aware that more pro cards are given out, thereby reducing the number of high level amateurs left to compete?

Are you aware that fitness culture itself has shifted, reducing the number of LHW/HW/SHW competitors?

Are you aware that classic physique has rerouted a lot of would-be bodybuilders?

If old school was “better”, and everyone universally understands this and agrees, why don’t we all just do what they did and get the same result?
 
I looked at a few of the overalls and other ge real competitors from that show on their website.. the photographer seems to be the biggest issue. Hardly any pictures while hitting a pose. 99% of them are in transitions and mid movements and other awkward things.

Very weird
 
If this thread is passive aggressively trying to say “old school guys just looked better”… what is the point?

Are you aware that more pro cards are given out, thereby reducing the number of high level amateurs left to compete?

Are you aware that fitness culture itself has shifted, reducing the number of LHW/HW/SHW competitors?

Are you aware that classic physique has rerouted a lot of would-be bodybuilders?

If old school was “better”, and everyone universally understands this and agrees, why don’t we all just do what they did and get the same result?
Thanks for sharing your perspective. My post wasn’t meant to be passive aggressive, but rather to generate a discussion about the differences between eras. You raise some valid points about the changing landscape of bodybuilding, including the increased number of pro cards, the evolution of fitness culture, and the emergence of classic physique.

However, the comparison of physiques from different eras isn’t necessarily about one being 'better' than the other, but about appreciating the evolution and the distinct characteristics that each period represents.

Each era has its own unique appeal, training methods, and aesthetic goals, and a thinker might find value in acknowledging these differences. The purpose of the discussion is to appreciate the diversity in bodybuilding and to acknowledge how the sport has transformed over the years. It’s not about undermining current athletes but about recognizing and celebrating the sport's rich history.
 

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Thanks for sharing your perspective. My post wasn’t meant to be passive aggressive, but rather to generate a discussion about the differences between eras. You raise some valid points about the changing landscape of bodybuilding, including the increased number of pro cards, the evolution of fitness culture, and the emergence of classic physique.

However, the comparison of physiques from different eras isn’t necessarily about one being 'better' than the other, but about appreciating the evolution and the distinct characteristics that each period represents.

Each era has its own unique appeal, training methods, and aesthetic goals, and a thinker might find value in acknowledging these differences. The purpose of the discussion is to appreciate the diversity in bodybuilding and to acknowledge how the sport has transformed over the years. It’s not about undermining current athletes but about recognizing and celebrating the sport's rich history.


“I’m not being passive aggressive (juxtaposes a beautiful physique with Nick Walker)”

This guy..lol
 
Thanks for sharing your perspective. My post wasn’t meant to be passive aggressive, but rather to generate a discussion about the differences between eras. You raise some valid points about the changing landscape of bodybuilding, including the increased number of pro cards, the evolution of fitness culture, and the emergence of classic physique.

However, the comparison of physiques from different eras isn’t necessarily about one being 'better' than the other, but about appreciating the evolution and the distinct characteristics that each period represents.

Each era has its own unique appeal, training methods, and aesthetic goals, and a thinker might find value in acknowledging these differences. The purpose of the discussion is to appreciate the diversity in bodybuilding and to acknowledge how the sport has transformed over the years. It’s not about undermining current athletes but about recognizing and celebrating the sport's rich history.
You do realize there’s plenty of current athletes with insane waist and aesthetics today though, right?

Comparing two completely polar opposite bodybuilders in terms of shape and build just seems a bit extreme to me, that’s why people were seeing your post as a bit passive aggressive I’d assume.
 
For what it’s worth, Dennis Newman and Charles Clairemont were both sensational!! …I thought Jean Pierre Fux was pretty freaking amazing too until the gut got outta hand in his later years.
 
Another comparison from 30 years ago, to today

Maybe I’m old school but I like the physiques from the 80’s/90’s better. These coaches today are ruining these guys.
 

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First off congrats to all of the competitors. Here is a pic from the overall winner, compared to the winner from 30 years ago (granted one is in color and one is in black and white)…thoughts?
not a fair comparison, one is completely flexed and set in the pose, the other is in transition not set in the pose.

Fair is fair, even looking at more comparable pictures i think the older overall is more impressive.
But its about whos on stage that day.
You can see the comparison pictures for the overall here:
 
I feel like the guys today are dryer but less round. Kind of tortoise like but no roundness to the muscle belly whereas the old school look was fuller yet tighter.
 

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Same athlete, mid to late 90’s (and even early 2000’s)vs. more recent dryer but less round.
 

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Same athlete, mid to late 90’s (and even early 2000’s)vs. more recent dryer but less round.
Now you’re trying to compare the most recent USA winner to Jay Cutler… 🤣

Cmon man, there’s good and bad in all era’s. If you’re going to make comparisons though at least make them realistic and equal in terms of level.

Also which coaches exactly are ruining guys?
 

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