25mg test 2x weekly??? emeric, or anyone for that matter?

[w8tlifterty]

I have read studies that state 50mg test injected weekly does not shut down the hpta.... Now, if one had low test levels since pubertiy (age 26 now), but didnt want to risk possible side effects of higher doses and was mainly concerned with maintaining what he has built w aas in the past(above genetic potential). Could 25mg 2x weekly be beneficial w/o having any effect on the hormonal axis? This has been proposed on some other boards but cant seem to find much out there regarding it....

 

[machola]

I have read studies that state 50mg test injected weekly does not shut down the hpta.... Now, if one had low test levels since pubertiy (age 26 now), but didnt want to risk possible side effects of higher doses and was mainly concerned with maintaining what he has built w aas in the past(above genetic potential). Could 25mg 2x weekly be beneficial w/o having any effect on the hormonal axis? This has been proposed on some other boards but cant seem to find much out there regarding it....

it may not fully shut you down but it will definitely lower your LH FSH sperm and endogenous testosterone production to some degree... a healthy endocrine system works on feedback. the stimulation for production of test is a low amount of test, dht, and estrogen(and other hormones). if there are high levels of test, dht, and estrogen in circulation the body will stop producing test.

this is actually the basis for one of the ways they test for tumors in gigantism. insulin inhibits Gh release. first they test Gh levels. then they give glucose which increases insulin and should stop Gh production. if the Gh level lowers then the system is working fine. if Gh stays the same a tumor is suspected. feedback is not working properly... sorry for the novel. i just find this stuff interesting

 

[w8tlifterty]

Me too, thanks for the reply. That makes sense. I posed the question b/c it's been stated that there would not be a negative feedback loop when using such a low amt....hopefully this will get some views and a good discussion.

 

[617ricky]

I think you could mediate some of that disruption with continuous low-dose hcg..

 

[w8tlifterty]

I meant to include hcg in the mix... something like 25mg test enan mon and thurs and 250iu hcg saturday and tuesday.

 

[machola]

actually... here's a study that shows 25mg testosterone/week results in almost full shutdown. makes sense. i believe the average human only produces 7mg testosterone/day.

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/281/6/E1172/T2

edit: hcg will act as LH. keeps your balls big, producing test and some sperm(got my girl pregnant after 2 years on 200mg test/week i believe due to hcg) but your pituitary will still be shutdown and producing very little LH and FSH.

 

[emeric delczeg]

I have read studies that state 50mg test injected weekly does not shut down the hpta.... Now, if one had low test levels since pubertiy (age 26 now), but didnt want to risk possible side effects of higher doses and was mainly concerned with maintaining what he has built w aas in the past(above genetic potential). Could 25mg 2x weekly be beneficial w/o having any effect on the hormonal axis? This has been proposed on some other boards but cant seem to find much out there regarding it....

Questions: How old are you?

 

[animal eater]

I believe he is 26

 

[emeric delczeg]

I believe he is 26

OK, so this question on the 25mg is for him, and is not for his friend?

 

[w8tlifterty]

Correct, 26... it would be for me Emeric

 

[kid1dakota]

At one time I was prescribed 50mg a week of the cream.LoL, I know Cutler look out! But the Doc prescribed HCG every 8 weeks for 10 days straight then back at it(test). He truly believed that amount would shut a person down.