2nd Cycle: Test and Bold.

Mr_M · Feb 21, 2010

Hey guys,

I just had my first cycle and it was great. But now i'm planning a new cycle for over 4 months.

My first cycle was:
1-6 375mg Test E EW
1-6 200mg Deca EW
7-10 500 Test E EW
3-10 25mg Proviron ED

Stats right now:
5'11, 210lbs and about 13/14% BF.

I was thinking about 500mg test with 800mg Boldenone for 14 weeks. Goal is to gain at least 20 pounds with minimum BF gain.

1-14 500mg Test Enanthate EW
1-14 800mg Boldenone EW
3-14 25mg Proviron ED
17-21 Arofixen 1 Cap ED

What do you guys think?

nspaletta · Feb 21, 2010

Seems like a pretty solid cycle. Only think I would do different personally is run them both at 600 mgs ew. But all in all looks like a good cycle. Keep me posted on how it goes for you

peachfuzz · Feb 22, 2010

Mr_M said:
Hey guys,

I just had my first cycle and it was great. But now i'm planning a new cycle for over 4 months.

My first cycle was:
1-6 375mg Test E EW
1-6 200mg Deca EW
7-10 500 Test E EW
3-10 25mg Proviron ED

Stats right now:
5'11, 210lbs and about 13/14% BF.

I was thinking about 500mg test with 800mg Boldenone for 14 weeks. Goal is to gain at least 20 pounds with minimum BF gain.

1-14 500mg Test Enanthate EW
1-14 800mg Boldenone EW
3-14 25mg Proviron ED
12-16 Arofixen 1 Cap ED

What do you guys think?

drop the EQ to 400-600

if the arofixen is for post cycle your start time is off. the esters take two weeks to clear so post cycle doesn't begin until week 17. personally if your gonna be running proviron on cycle then i would just stick to nolva and clomid for post cycle. no need for the AI. also pinning twice per week would be best.

Mr_M · Feb 22, 2010

peachfuzz said:
drop the EQ to 400-600

if the arofixen is for post cycle your start time is off. the esters take two weeks to clear so post cycle doesn't begin until week 17. personally if your gonna be running proviron on cycle then i would just stick to nolva and clomid for post cycle. no need for the AI. also pinning twice per week would be best.

the arofixen week is wrong, will start 2 weeks after last inject. I will keep the arofixen, have nolvadex too but i think the aromasin will let me recover a bit easier.

why should i drop the EQ to 400-600? 600mg is possible but I don't think 400mg is enough..

nspaletta · Feb 22, 2010

i would do 600 of eq and 600 of test

pesty4077 · Feb 22, 2010

You took 500mg your first cycle and now you want to take over double? WHY??? You guys crack me up with your jumps in AAS use. You are taking what some guys do, that have been training for many years. I would re-evaluate my training and DIET. I bet that is the problem.

strognarm · Feb 22, 2010

Eq can be ran slighty higher then your test. 100mgs-150mgs isnt no biggie. 300mgs over is pushing it a little.Either up your test a lil or drop the bold a lil.

Mr_M · Feb 22, 2010

strognarm said:
Eq can be ran slighty higher then your test. 100mgs-150mgs isnt no biggie. 300mgs over is pushing it a little.Either up your test a lil or drop the bold a lil.

can you explain to me why 300mg over isn't good? Just wondering what the theory behind this is.

strognarm · Feb 23, 2010

Mr_M said:
can you explain to me why 300mg over isn't good? Just wondering what the theory behind this is.

I never said it wasnt good. the rule of thumb is to keep your test the same or above your other compounds. So you dont run into limp dick and other problems. EQ is mild so slighter higher then your test shouldnt cause a big problem.

deathklok · Mar 5, 2010

pesty4077 said:
You took 500mg your first cycle and now you want to take over double? WHY??? You guys crack me up with your jumps in AAS use. You are taking what some guys do, that have been training for many years. I would re-evaluate my training and DIET. I bet that is the problem.

i 2nd that,critique and perfect your diet not your cycle,as a beginner i never changed my cycle for the first 4 i only used test,and kept only using test,in my first 3 cycles i gained 50lbs,after my fourth i figured i was experienced enough to try something new,but my diet was 70% of my results and gains!

Huuuge · Mar 5, 2010

strognarm said:
I never said it wasnt good. the rule of thumb is to keep your test the same or above your other compounds. So you dont run into limp dick and other problems. EQ is mild so slighter higher then your test shouldnt cause a big problem.

I'm with you on this one, I'd always run test slightly higher than any other compound. But yeah, should be ok if EQ is a bit higher. Personally I'd pin 600 test and 500 eq.

RV63T · Mar 6, 2010

add some TBOL wks 1-4 and 9-12
500 test
600 to 800 eq
you should harden up very well

Flex2019 · Mar 6, 2010

I'd drop the EQ to 500 or 600 per week. Other than that the cycle looks fine to me. Assuming your diet and training are in check you should end up with nice lean gains (though 20lbs is a bit of a stretch).