320ui of Insulin !!!!!

[kal el]

I cant believe this : check out :

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[Kaiser]

I cant believe this : check out :

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Stupid ass.

 

[Jaylee]

???? Bum

The article is lack luster and anyone who injects 320 iu's is well deserving of a token ' COMA '. People like that give this sport a bad rap!

 

[kal el]

true

 

[Gunsmith]

Kinda like the dumb ass kids that abuse Ephedrin , it only take a few doumb ass to make the whole group look bad.

Darwin's law in my oppinion , let the dumb one die out or be eaten !!

 

[TooPowerful4u]

Thats fucked up. It was a mistake..... i thought it was the 1 on the 23 guages ... i didnt get too much brain damage as you can see from my recent posts :ac:ion-sm

 

[nate63225]

The amusing thing about this article is it is totally wrong. I am Type 1 and have been for over 20 years. I have also been an avid lifter and AAS user. I will tell you that the article is wrong due to the fact of the amount used by the person. Insulin is just like any other injectible you take while building. If you injected say 5 ml of test ED, your body will fill all of its receptors and then the rest will be discarded from the body. The same is true for insulin. The human body has enough receptors to fill approx 50 - 75 units at one time. Which is more than enough to cause hypoglycemia. However after the receptors are filled the rest is washed from the body. The other interesting thing about the article is the supposed brain damage. If this is true then trust me, I would not be able to sit here and type because I would be staring at a wall drooling on myself. When your blood sugar begins to drop you will experience many different effects. The best way I describe it to people is to use the analogy of being drunk. The more your sugar drops the more drunk you become leading to blurred vision, coordination problems and eventually you pass out. This is when your body’s defenses step in. Your liver will begin to produce a hormone called glucagon, which causes your blood sugar to rise, thus saving your life. The only way brain damage or death can occur is if your liver is not working due to alcohol consumption or liver problems. So without trying to sound like I am bitching, I hate to see articles like this that paint such a bad picture. Insulin is probably one of the safest hormones you can take next to test. Insulin will not kill you. Hypoglycemia within your environment will. Hopes this clears it.

 

[kal el]

thanks for the info

How you adjust your dosage to building muscle ?...and what do you think about the insulin resistant using for high doses or prolonged period of time ??...thanks for you time.

 

[nate63225]

How you adjust your dosage to building muscle ?...and what do you think about the insulin resistant using for high doses or prolonged period of time ??...thanks for you time.

The best thing you can do first is getting your hands on Humalog. It is a very quick acting insulin and only lasts for approx 2 hours. To briefly describe how insulin works:

Insulin acts as a key to the body’s cells. All cells need nutrients to grow and perform their functions. Insulin is the key that unlocks the cell that allows the nutrients to be absorbed. This works for every cell but can be harnessed to work in conjunction for building. Protein, creatine, NO2, etc. can be used with insulin to allow greater absorption into the cells thus equaling greater growth.

To answer your question on prolonged use I will say that Humalog will put less stress on your body because of the fast acting short lasting duration. It should not interfere with your body’s natural production. However longer acting insulin such as regular or NPH will stress your body more due to your body not needing to produce any of its own. You need to definitely research insulin and its effects and then under supervision of someone you can trust begin experimenting with doses to find the right dose. You will gain the most injecting before meals and post workout in addition with loading up on protein and all other OTC supplements that work best for you. It also increases gains with AAS due to more of the nutrients are being used.

One caution with insulin is that when your body has absorbed all the nutrients possible and there is still insulin in your system, the remaining calories will be stored as fat. IGF will help with this but you must know how insulin works with your body before you start messing with that. Good luck.

 

[Busamuscle]

The amusing thing about this article is it is totally wrong. I am Type 1 and have been for over 20 years. I have also been an avid lifter and AAS user. I will tell you that the article is wrong due to the fact of the amount used by the person. Insulin is just like any other injectible you take while building. If you injected say 5 ml of test ED, your body will fill all of its receptors and then the rest will be discarded from the body. The same is true for insulin. The human body has enough receptors to fill approx 50 - 75 units at one time. Which is more than enough to cause hypoglycemia. However after the receptors are filled the rest is washed from the body. The other interesting thing about the article is the supposed brain damage. If this is true then trust me, I would not be able to sit here and type because I would be staring at a wall drooling on myself. When your blood sugar begins to drop you will experience many different effects. The best way I describe it to people is to use the analogy of being drunk. The more your sugar drops the more drunk you become leading to blurred vision, coordination problems and eventually you pass out. This is when your body’s defenses step in. Your liver will begin to produce a hormone called glucagon, which causes your blood sugar to rise, thus saving your life. The only way brain damage or death can occur is if your liver is not working due to alcohol consumption or liver problems. So without trying to sound like I am bitching, I hate to see articles like this that paint such a bad picture. Insulin is probably one of the safest hormones you can take next to test. Insulin will not kill you. Hypoglycemia within your environment will. Hopes this clears it.

I believe after going hypo, low glucose levels in the brain cause the pituitary to release hgh, which causes the liver to release glucagon. Glucagon is secreted and acts on hepatocytes to activate the enzymes that depolymerize glycogen and release glucose to prevent brain damage!

 

[nate63225]

I believe after going hypo, low glucose levels in the brain cause the pituitary to release hgh, which causes the liver to release glucagon. Glucagon is secreted and acts on hepatocytes to activate the enzymes that depolymerize glycogen and release glucose to prevent brain damage!

I think that is close but I believe the pituitary gland stimulates the adrenal glands that produce adrenaline which then causes the liver to produce glucagon.

 

[KillerStack]

Anyone notice this gem in the article:

Insulin can be used as a steroid

"Hey, I'm on this steroid called Humalog"

I read this report of a diabetic who tried to kill himself with 600iu. He was rushed to the hospital and disappeared suddenly somehow. He was found outside smoking a cigarette, fully coherent according to the report LOL.

 

[Steak Helmet]

Stupidity runs strong through the media

just another uneducated lifter.

 

[Fears]

This is the usual with the media. They will sensationalize an idiot like this and never give balance to a story. All in the name of presenting a pre-conceived bias.
There is a lot of fear of insulin even in the bodybuilding community. It certainly can be dangerous if used irresponsibly.
Once you get used to using it and know your body it is very safe in my opinion.
I never go higher than 12IU's of humalog, get my shakes and meals in at proper timing and never had a problem.
320IU's...... Jesus

 

[Busamuscle]

I think that is close but I believe the pituitary gland stimulates the adrenal glands that produce adrenaline which then causes the liver to produce glucagon.

Yes I think that both pathways are correct but not sure when each one is used or if they act in conjunction.

 

[BigJohn]

you both are wrong.

Your pancreas produces glucagon, not your liver. Your liver responds to glucagon by releasing it's glucose stores.

 

[Busamuscle]

you both are wrong.

Your pancreas produces glucagon, not your liver. Your liver responds to glucagon by releasing it's glucose stores.

Man you are on it, I missed that but glad you could point it out!

 

[Ivan]

???

The amusing thing about this article is it is totally wrong. I am Type 1 and have been for over 20 years. I have also been an avid lifter and AAS user. I will tell you that the article is wrong due to the fact of the amount used by the person. Insulin is just like any other injectible you take while building. If you injected say 5 ml of test ED, your body will fill all of its receptors and then the rest will be discarded from the body. The same is true for insulin. The human body has enough receptors to fill approx 50 - 75 units at one time. Which is more than enough to cause hypoglycemia. However after the receptors are filled the rest is washed from the body. The other interesting thing about the article is the supposed brain damage. If this is true then trust me, I would not be able to sit here and type because I would be staring at a wall drooling on myself. When your blood sugar begins to drop you will experience many different effects. The best way I describe it to people is to use the analogy of being drunk. The more your sugar drops the more drunk you become leading to blurred vision, coordination problems and eventually you pass out. This is when your body’s defenses step in. Your liver will begin to produce a hormone called glucagon, which causes your blood sugar to rise, thus saving your life. The only way brain damage or death can occur is if your liver is not working due to alcohol consumption or liver problems. So without trying to sound like I am bitching, I hate to see articles like this that paint such a bad picture. Insulin is probably one of the safest hormones you can take next to test. Insulin will not kill you. Hypoglycemia within your environment will. Hopes this clears it.

Sorry but I have to disagree with you whether you are a diabetic or not. I have personally witnessed what an insulin overdose can do, and the person od'ed causing her to pass out unconscious, when I found her she was frothing at the mouth, totally unconscious (and unable to wake up) and her entire body was as stiff as a board. The doc at the ER told us she had maybe 20 min to live after we found her. They had to keep monitering her blood sugar as the slin kept working. It worked for over 6 hours, she had to keep taking glucose etc just to keep it from dropping. And when she finally seemed safe to go home, her heart started to have palpitations and so forth.
Being hypo in your environment will kill you??? What causes you to go hypo in the first place??? INSULIN. Your post is dangerous and could cause some poor bastard his life thinking that taking this much slin is ok. When you go hypo, first you sweat, then your vision gets blurry, (and blindness or eye problems can also happen -- which is brain damage in a sense) then you pass out!! You get sleepy, and this is where the danger really happens, you fall asleep and you slowly creep into a diabetic coma if nobody finds you.

 

[STEVO 47]

I've heard of a few guys dropping in the gyms from that shit too.
call me a puss but tooooooo dangerous for me.

 

[Big Danny]

As we all know insulin is the most dangerous thing in bb. No joke, it could literaly kill you, so my advice is stay away at least you are 100% sure you know exactly what are you doing, and even then start with the lowest dose possible until you figure it out.