40mL EQ, 40mL Susta, 40mL Deca --what to do?

[Cornholio]

Currently I have 40mL of Equipoise, 40mL of Susta and 40mL of Deca at my disposal. This is my first cycle, but i want something pretty powerful. 25 years old, training hard for 6 years, 6ft1, at a lean 185lb. Im aiming and hoping to put on large keepable quality gains. Just to recap, I have:

40mL of Equipo!se (200mg), 40mL of Susta(250mg). and 40mL of Deca(200mg)

In your opinion shall I run this as one continous 20week course, 2cc's of each a week? (400mg of EQ, 400mg of Deca, 500mg of Susta) Do you think I need anti-e's, would a strong PCT be needed (I will stop the Deca a few weeks earlier than the other two), what type of gains would this course give (quality/quantity wise).

I can also, if need be, try to get my hands on dbol and letro. would this help in giving more gains??

thanks in advance for your much valued answers.

 

[oldfella]

Currently I have 40mL of Equipoise, 40mL of Susta and 40mL of Deca at my disposal. This is my first cycle, but i want something pretty powerful. 25 years old, training hard for 6 years, 6ft1, at a lean 185lb. Im aiming and hoping to put on large keepable quality gains. Just to recap, I have:

40mL of Equipo!se (200mg), 40mL of Susta(250mg). and 40mL of Deca(200mg)

In your opinion shall I run this as one continous 20week course, 2cc's of each a week? (400mg of EQ, 400mg of Deca, 500mg of Susta) Do you think I need anti-e's, would a strong PCT be needed (I will stop the Deca a few weeks earlier than the other two), what type of gains would this course give (quality/quantity wise).

I can also, if need be, try to get my hands on dbol and letro. would this help in giving more gains??

thanks in advance for your much valued answers.

2 things here. First, that's alot of shit for your first cycle!! Why do you think you need to run all of this if you have never done anything in the past?? More is not better. Why not just try test only first. See how you go with that. You have no idea what this is going to do for you. if you get bad sides you will not know what is causing it! Second, You have not put up any other stats like years training, nutrition etc.

 

[Cornholio]

thanks 4 reply

ok, thanks for the reply, i think considering the gear i have now, i will have two 20 week cycles of 250mg Sustanon, 200mg boldenone and 200mg Deca. Can anyone give a estimate of the gains (quality vs. quantity) I will gain from this cycle, and whether it would be mostly keepable or not. thanks

 

[db006]

ok, thanks for the reply, i think considering the gear i have now, i will have two 20 week cycles of 250mg Sustanon, 200mg boldenone and 200mg Deca. Can anyone give a estimate of the gains (quality vs. quantity) I will gain from this cycle, and whether it would be mostly keepable or not. thanks

you need to do a cycle for your brain and aas knowledge first. IMO.

 

[drob29]

2 things here. First, that's alot of shit for your first cycle!! Why do you think you need to run all of this if you have never done anything in the past?? More is not better. Why not just try test only first. See how you go with that. You have no idea what this is going to do for you. if you get bad sides you will not know what is causing it! Second, You have not put up any other stats like years training, nutrition etc.

AGREED!

ok, thanks for the reply, i think considering the gear i have now, i will have two 20 week cycles of 250mg Sustanon, 200mg boldenone and 200mg Deca. Can anyone give a estimate of the gains (quality vs. quantity) I will gain from this cycle, and whether it would be mostly keepable or not. thanks

Bro,

1. you need to do WAY more research. You will be in way over your head if you attempt that "cycle"
2. Your first cycle should be 12 weeks max, test ONLY. If you want throw a 40 mg ed dbol kicker in for 4 weeks.
3. 20 weeks of deca is a HORRIBLE idea. 12 weeks max.
4. You need to run test two weeks longer than the deca
5. 20 weeks for any first cycle is a horrible idea.
6. see number 1 above.
7 whats your plan for post cycle therapy (or PCT?) do you know what that even is?
8. See number one above

100% gains = 60% diet/rest + 25% workout routine + 15% "supplements"

Please post all stats. age, wt, ht, bf% lift history, goals.

 

[Cornholio]

too much?

alrite, thanks for the heads up

 

[Cornholio]

ok ok

AGREED!



Bro,

1. you need to do WAY more research. You will be in way over your head if you attempt that "cycle"
2. Your first cycle should be 12 weeks max, test ONLY. If you want throw a 40 mg ed dbol kicker in for 4 weeks.
3. 20 weeks of deca is a HORRIBLE idea. 12 weeks max.
4. You need to run test two weeks longer than the deca
5. 20 weeks for any first cycle is a horrible idea.
6. see number 1 above.
7 whats your plan for post cycle therapy (or PCT?) do you know what that even is?
8. See number one above

100% gains = 60% diet/rest + 25% workout routine + 15% "supplements"

Please post all stats. age, wt, ht, bf% lift history, goals.

25 years old, training hard for 6 years, 6ft1, at a very lean 185lb (dunno bf%), eating very well- 250g protein/day . I was hoping to put on a decent amount of quality gains, not looking for any specific weight target tho. At the mo, i only have 40mg EQ,40mgSust and 40mg Deca, no sides. Im still trying to get my hands on Nolva and HCG for PCT, but im not sure if its possible right now.

Thanks for the heads up with the warning bro, its hard to plan what a cycle when I dont know what to expect.

I'm thinking I'll go for a 10 week TestE cycle and throw in some Dbol if I can get it. And I'll definatly get AntiE's and HCG if I do that cycle.

 

[drob29]

25 years old, training hard for 6 years, 6ft1, at a very lean 185lb (dunno bf%), eating very well- 250g protein/day . I was hoping to put on a decent amount of quality gains, not looking for any specific weight target tho. At the mo, i only have 40mg EQ,40mgSust and 40mg Deca, no sides. Im still trying to get my hands on Nolva and HCG for PCT, but im not sure if its possible right now.

Thanks for the heads up with the warning bro, its hard to plan what a cycle when I dont know what to expect.

I'm thinking I'll go for a 10 week TestE cycle and throw in some Dbol if I can get it. And I'll definatly get AntiE's and HCG if I do that cycle.

ok. good move.

At 185 lbs and 6 ft 1, I would suggest you add more weight without AAS. If you join www.fitday.com (its free) you can see what your eating numbers wise and go from there. You should be 200 lbs natural before using AAS.

On cycle eating is a chore. if your ever hungry then something is wrong IMO. Also you need 370-400 g of protein daily to grow at your weight.

If your going to do AAS anyway, your diet will determin your gains. Without great planning and proper execution of a solid diet plan you will be dissapointed with the results of your cycle..

Regarding PCT. Bro, you need PCT in hand before you start your cycle. This is critical. I would reccomend this PCT

TWO WEEKS AFTER YOUR LAST TEST INJECT:

wk 1. clomid 100mg ed/nolva 40 mg ed
wk 2. clomid 50 mg ed/ nolva 30 mg ed
wk 3 clomid 50 mg ed/nolva 20 mg ed

to sum it up:

1. please take time to learn more about what your about to do. go to www.steroidsprofiles.com and read read read. AAS are not like sups from GNC and need to be treated as such.
2. You need PCT
3. Join fitday and do diet research.
4. You really need to gain size naturally before you do AAS IMO

hope this helped

 

[Dad]

2 things here. First, that's alot of shit for your first cycle!! Why do you think you need to run all of this if you have never done anything in the past?? More is not better. Why not just try test only first. See how you go with that. You have no idea what this is going to do for you. if you get bad sides you will not know what is causing it! Second, You have not put up any other stats like years training, nutrition etc.

Agree with this completely.
AND what others have said, except why not do 6 weeks of sust? It will take another 5-6 weeks after yuor last shot to clear fully, so yuo'll still be "on" for several weeks after yuor last shot.

Also, what is yuor training history?
If yuo've trained for anything less than 2 years of steady, hard, week-in-week-out training, and tried LOTS of different workout protocols (powerlifting, high-volume, etc) so yuo know how yuor body responds, I'd say wait and don't do any cycle yet.

 

[Cornholio]

new plan

Alright thanks for the advice guys, i'll hold off untill I up my weight and protein intake, and get my hands on PCTgear. In the end I'll probably do a short Sust. or TestE cycle. But im going to wait alot longer untill I even consider using AAS.

 

[marooned]

Bump for all the good advice here. Also note that you need Novadex at least and maybe Letro on hand in case you start to get Gyno. If it starts and your looking around to try to find stuff there is going to be nothing you can do to stop it from getting worse, and stopping the gear will make it worse. PCT in hand before stating anything, every time. If you do combine Deca and EQ you may find it hard to get wood. Each individually can bring on that side and combined even the Test you are taking might not be strong enough to keep that from happening somewhat. Not a good side to have. I have found that 80% is diet, 15% is sleep, and 5% is supplements for me. Work hard, sleep and if you have any extra gear left over send it too me Good Luck bro.

 

[Dad]

Sorry Corn, didn't see the stats part yuo posted when I replied, but still think what yuo're hearing here is good.

Nice post, Marooned - good advice!

 

[Cornholio]

cheers

thanks for the help guys, if it wasnt for you guys in 10 weeks i'd have be walking around with gyno man-tits, shitty mood and deca-dick.. eek! scary shit.

 

[terryd5150]

thanks for the help guys, if it wasnt for you guys in 10 weeks i'd have be walking around with gyno man-tits, shitty mood and deca-dick.. eek! scary shit.

You are going in the right direction now.