625lb RAW bench for 3 reps!!

[big_byrd52]

check this shit out! this is big Nick Winters, 625 bench for 3!

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[flexmaster]

WOW

now that was impressive!!!

 

[gtj220]

damn!! nuff said

 

[Steak Helmet]

That is one thick fella...

I think I would have more than one spotter for 625lbs...your shoulder goes, that guy is not going to pull the weight off...he is just going to pull it up onto your throat...

ANYWAYS, NICE LIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kaiser]

Impressive but he did have a hell of a sternum bounce. Alot of weight, I would have rather seen him get 1 or 2 clean in my book.

 

[big_byrd52]

by the way, that was his SECOND heavy workout of the week. he just did it for 4 reps 3 days earlier!!! and kiaser... seriously dude. thats 625 for 3 reps raw!! most people would be more than thrilled to ever squat that much!! But to statify ur need for a good clean lift, check out some of these vids.... then wait for the New England Record Breakers meet on may 6th... a big number is coming!

www.putfile.com/nickw

 

[Kaiser]

Stiffler, (lol, j/k man) I know he's strong, I just know how regulation is and how much damage you can do from bouncing off of your sternum. A friend of mine cracked 3 ribs to the point where he couldn't breath and an ambulance came to pick him up. And that was only somehere in the area of 345 or something. 625 is alot of weight, and you can tell he has raw power. I just would rather see someone do more of a regulation push otherwise there really is no baseline for competition. When I did 586, (weighing 242) it was clean, no shirt and with a pause. It's just the way I was trained on this stuff I guess. Nevertheless brother, great push and great raw power.

After looking at the second video on that website you just linked, now that is a push in my book. Very clean and controlled. That is what I would rather see personally because that is what really makes a difference. He's a strong guy.

 

[KillerStack]

I didn't think there was much bounce at all. At least nothing compared to what i have seen other elite lifters do on video. Many of them seem to let the bar really sink in their chest before pressing.

Here's Siders benching. Check out the bounce (not everyone calls that a bounce though)
http://www.benchamerica.com/index.cfm?page=sidersmovie.cfm

 

[Kaiser]

I didn't think there was much bounce at all. At least nothing compared to what i have seen other elite lifters do on video. Many of them seem to let the bar really sink in their chest before pressing.

Here's Siders benching. Check out the bounce (not everyone calls that a bounce though)
http://www.benchamerica.com/index.cfm?page=sidersmovie.cfm

Sorry man, thats just not a regulation bench. I realize it is alot of weight and he does reps, but when you use your chest as a springboard to give you momentum, then that just isn't a valid press, let alone being a risk. Check the one in the link Byrd just put up. The one where he does 625 for 1, not 3. That was an awesome press. That's a real bench. Drop, pause, press. It's the only true way to guage strength one on one.

 

[KillerStack]

Sorry man, thats just not a regulation bench. I realize it is alot of weight and he does reps, but when you use your chest as a springboard to give you momentum, then that just isn't a valid press, let alone being a risk. Check the one in the link Byrd just put up. The one where he does 625 for 1, not 3. That was an awesome press. That's a real bench. Drop, pause, press. It's the only true way to guage strength one on one.

I'm very aware that that is not a regulation bench, but it seems most train with a little bounce or letting the weight sink in the chest (when benching raw in training). I think Siders has the highest ever IPF bench as well but his form nothing like a legal bench in that video I posted.

 

[Kaiser]

I'm very aware that that is not a regulation bench, but it seems most train with a little bounce or letting the weight sink in the chest (when benching raw in training). I think Siders has the highest ever IPF bench as well but his form nothing like a legal bench in that video I posted.

What weight class? I thought Scot Mendelson owned the highest with close to or over 1000lbs, but I might be mistaken.

 

[KillerStack]

What weight class? I thought Scot Mendelson owned the highest with close to or over 1000lbs, but I might be mistaken.

From briansiders.com

11.16.04: This last week Brian won the IPF's 35th Open Men's World Championships in Cape Town, South Africa as a SHW. He squatted an amazing 437.5kg (963ish), benched a world record 337.5kg(744), and pulled 372.5kg (821ish) to set a world record 1147.5 (2529) total.

I don't know if it has been upped since 2004 but I recently read he held the record in SHW. Could be wrong.
IPF doesn't allow the super-duper shirts that guys like Mendelson use. I don't think they are even close to 1000 with a single ply shirt.

 

[Kaiser]

Unless he is in a low weight class, 744 is definately not the top. I think Ted Arcidi did that all the way back in 1985. I know personal friends that have come close to that number. It's not really that high anymore, although I find it to be amazing.

Here's one of Gene Rychlak in 2003 pushing clean with no bounce or indent in chest 900lbs. He's over that now and pushing 1000 or just a little under. Rumor has it that he is over 1000 and pushing trying like hell for 1100. Mendelson is also shooting for that number, but I cant find video on him.

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[Kaiser]

Actually, here ya go, just found this:

http://www.slate.com/id/2104915/

 

[KillerStack]

Unless he is in a low weight class, 744 is definately not the top. I think Ted Arcidi did that all the way back in 1985. I know personal friends that have come close to that number. It's not really that high anymore, although I find it to be amazing.

Here's one of Gene Rychlak in 2003 pushing clean with no bounce or indent in chest 900lbs. He's over that now and pushing 1000 or just a little under. Rumor has it that he is over 1000 and pushing trying like hell for 1100. Mendelson is also shooting for that number, but I cant find video on him.

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I don't know how much you follow powerlifting but I was talking about the IPF record. It cannot be compared to what someone like Rychlak does. See his shirt in the video you posted, see how he wears it. It's a whole different ballgame. I have seen some high level powerlifters say Rychlak gets over 400lbs. out of his shirt. Even if it's an exaggeration, what Mendelson and Rychlak do with these multi-layer open back shirts, worn low on the chest, cannot be compared to IPF standards or RAW meets. IPF lifters also cannot lower it to the stomach like Rychlak et al do, it has to hit the upper sternum. They also drug test, and although the guys get around it I'm sure it limits what you can do drug wise.

I did a search and it seems Ted Arcidi did 725 in competition. I also remember Ted Arcidi being very critical of the new shirts after he retired. He called them slingshots. It's just a different sport today with the gear technology. I saw the recent clips of Mendelson doing over 1000 and he couldn't even get his first attempts to touch his chest! That's one strong shirt!

Brian Siders is a super heavyweight and he has the highest total ever, as well as the highest bench as far as I know - in the IPF. What could Siders do under the same conditions as Mendelson or Rychlak? It's impossible to know since it's almost a different sport but I'm pretty sure he would beat Rychlak if both lifted RAW.
BTW, who are your friends that do close to these numbers? Must be someone we know.

 

[KillerStack]

Here's one of Gene Rychlak in 2003 pushing clean with no bounce or indent in chest 900lbs. He's over that now and pushing 1000 or just a little under. Rumor has it that he is over 1000 and pushing trying like hell for 1100. Mendelson is also shooting for that number, but I cant find video on him.

I think Rychlak has benched 1005. He missed 1015 at the Olympia.

Here's Mendelson doing 1008:

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[Kaiser]

Must be someone we know.

Mike Reis, used to owned Gold's gym in Laurel Springs, now owns Active Fitness in Medford, 655 for 3 reps no shirt. Kevin Boughton over 625 no shirt. I never could get into the sixes, but I guess that's how it goes.

As far as the shirt is concerned, I was under the inclination they were like they used to be and may on a good day add 125-150lbs to your bench. I guess they are taking the fight out of the lifter with the new ones if you say they add 600lbs to a guys bench. Thats crazy. Might as well just hook up a hoist, but I see where you are coming from. I saw the shirt, and figured, ok, lets just exagerate and say it helps out 200lbs, that still puts these guys above what that guy did RAW. Do they really help out 600lbs worth? You said that he'd hae a hard time with it being over 400 without the shirt right?

 

[KillerStack]

No I meant it can add 400lbs or so according some knowledgeable powerlifters. I don't know what Rychlak does raw but some have said they doubt he could do 600. I don't know. They call some of these guys shirt specialists because they can get so much out of them. They are so tight they have to row the weight to the chest lol. The first half of the lift is basically eliminated. That's also why they concentrate so much on board presses and tricep work. It's mostly just lockout strength that counts with a shirt like that.
Take a look at Mendelson trying to get the weight to touch here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0t1_tQwB8E

I mean the deadlift record wasn't broken for like 25 years until fairly recently but bench records have gone up by hundreds of pounds in just the last few years. It's pretty obvious why that is. I'm not saying these guys aren't brutally strong, I understand Mendelson has a huge raw bench as well, but you cannot accurately compare them to lifters of yesteryear because they don't lift under the same conditions.

 

[Kaiser]

Absolutley, I agree 100% if the shirts are helping out that much. Thats just rediculous. I had no idea they were allowing for 400+lbs. That truly is guageable like you said. At that point it's who spent more money on their shirt.

 

[big_byrd52]

It is rediculous. when most people get out of a shirt is a normal mans bench press. its stupid. i agree. Siders is a freak! and i wish he would have come to NERB to see him lift. mendy gets 300lbs from shirt... 715 raw to 1008 shirted. i get about 200 and only used it for 6 weeks. when i train in it consistantly, if i do, it will go up.
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and to ur guys that have done that much over 6, they need to go do it in a competiton. only about 30 guys have EVER benched an official 600 pounds in competition. here is the list, its in the middle of the page titled '600 pound bench unequiped'

1) goo to http://www.irongame.com/

2) click on sport at the top of page

3) click records

4) click micheal soongs all time records

5)click second link-- squat, bench, unequipped bench...

its half way down the page.