9 months of Deca Dick

[Bushbaby55]

Need some help from the experienced posters...

I've been using steroids since May of 2012, never had any problems until this March of this year when I first tried Deca. ran about 400mg's with a hefty 750mg dose of testosterone, but despite this about 4 weeks into the cycle I started losing my erection during sex with the girlfriend!

I quickly dropped deca from my stack but it was already too late. Soon my sex drive completely disappeared and when I did manage to get it up, I suffered from extreme ED. From April to August, I tried anything I could get my hands to try to self-medicate... Prami, Caber, Adex, Cialis, Viagra, more test, less test, Masteron, Proviron, Vitamin B6... basically anything I read online that might help w/ this problem. Nothing worked

In August I decided fuck it, I'm going to come off steroid to fix this thing. In November I explained the whole situation to my endo and he was quick to blame my sexual dysfunction on low test. Indeed blood work showed 140 ng/dl (reference 350-1100) but I tried to reason with him that even when I was on high dose exogenous testosterone, my dick wouldn't work. LH and FSH were in the dirt as well, but everything else was within range. Prolactin was at the top of the normal reference range, but my doctor did not seem concerned about this.

First round of bloods, my doctor didn't test for Estradiol or progesterone, which I thought was strange. His reasoning was that having been off of hormones for 3+ months, there is no reason to suspect that these hormones would be elevated... Not sure if I'm buying this.

Anyway for the past ~40 days I've been on Clomid, I can tell it's definitely raising my testosterone levels from the increase in testicular size as well as the fact that I have more strength in the gym, more energy in my daily life, and my mood seems to have stabilized (was depressed before)

But I still have no freaking sex drive at all! It feels like I could go the rest of my life without popping a boner. On the few occasions I have tried to masturbate, I couldn't keep an erection long enough to finish.

Can someone please give me some insight as to what the problem might be? This is really ruining my life, I'm afraid to pursue a sexual relationship because I know I won't be able to please the girl

And I have never had any sort of sexual dysfunction before Deca, in fact quite the opposite- I was a horny dog, so I am 99% sure that this is what caused this all.

Thanks for reading guys, I look forward to seeing what you have to say

 

[fitnesskatz]

fitnesskatz

have you considered getting back on some test and some caber

 

[Bushbaby55]

yes that is what I will push for the next time I see my doctor in January... this natural stuff ain't for me

Do you think it would be any different than when I was on test earlier this year?

 

[Elvia1023]

You have not had 9 months of deca dick at all. It may have effected you originally but I guarantee for the following months your ED issues were due to a combination of your mind, fluctuating test levels and elevated estrogen etc. You have thrown loads of drugs at a problem that was caused by the same drugs.

How old are you?

 

[Bushbaby55]

You have not had 9 months of deca dick at all. It may have effected you originally but I guarantee for the following months your ED issues were due to a combination of your mind, fluctuating test levels and elevated estrogen etc. You have thrown loads of drugs at a problem that was caused by the same drugs.

How old are you?

Very young lol..... I couldn't vote back in 2008

It is still the deca exerting some kind of effect, I believe. My penis "feels" different than it did before, it's kind of limp and spongy where as before it was tight- I don't know how to explain it. Plus I heard the metabolites are detectable up to 18 months after cessation.

I know using all that shit wasn't the best idea, but I read about this topic religiously online. Every time someone would say "bro all u have to do to fix deca dick is add ____" I would go and try it out

 

[Elvia1023]

Very young lol..... I couldn't vote back in 2008

It is still the deca exerting some kind of effect, I believe. My penis "feels" different than it did before, it's kind of limp and spongy where as before it was tight- I don't know how to explain it. Plus I heard the metabolites are detectable up to 18 months after cessation.

I know using all that shit wasn't the best idea, but I read about this topic religiously online. Every time someone would say "bro all u have to do to fix deca dick is add ____" I would go and try it out

I knew you were very young but wasn't sure the exact age. No deca has not changed the feel of your penis Thats all in your head. You can't get it fully hard so that's why it feels different. Plus you're fucked up mentally by your ED issues so it effects your confidence and well everything.

Most of the info about deca online is completely wrong. You need a full blood test of all hormones. Then once you have sorted that out you need to work on your confidence and realize it can happen to anyone when you inject various aas/hormones. You seem like a bright kid so don't worry about it. You will be fine.

 

[Bushbaby55]

I knew you were very young but wasn't sure the exact age. No deca has not changed the feel of your penis Thats all in your head. You can't get it fully hard so that's why it feels different. Plus you're fucked up mentally by your ED issues so it effects your confidence and well everything.

Most of the info about deca online is completely wrong. You need a full blood test of all hormones. Then once you have sorted that out you need to work on your confidence and realize it can happen to anyone when you inject various aas/hormones. You seem like a bright kid so don't worry about it. You will be fine.

I definitely notice a difference, even comparing flaccid pre/post deca. I realize it sounds stupid so I won't try to explain it any further. Other people's accounts of deca dick describe a similar phenomenon, I've read it might be caused by nerve damage but I have no idea about that.

I have already vowed to never touch 19-nor's again but I need to know what I can do to fix the current situation I'm in. My endo does not seem very knowledgeable on AAS, and "give it time, your body will fix itself" is getting old... I've given it plenty of time, I just want this ordeal to be over.

I know I probably have developed some mental issues about this but my ED is physiological, not psychological in nature.

What tests, specifically, should I ask for?


Edit: I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound like I'm bitching at you. Just frustrated.

 

[bieberhole69]

The only time I tried deca, it took about a year coming off of everything to get back to where I could get hard w/o cialis or viagra. I did a second "pct" 6week round of clomid therapy towards the end of that year and it largely fixed it. I have no problems now.

 

[Bushbaby55]

The only time I tried deca, it took about a year coming off of everything to get back to where I could get hard w/o cialis or viagra. I did a second "pct" 6week round of clomid therapy towards the end of that year and it largely fixed it. I have no problems now.

Thank you for this post, it gave me a little hope! So it was just an issue of being shut down/low t?

Does anyone else have experiences with reversing deca dick?

 

[ALLEX]

It's not deca dick, it's steroid dick.

Many people feel this way, even when taking test.

There's a huge difference between your libido under natural circumstances, with your FSH, LH and natural test levels in the right place and a shutdown HPTA with artificial test.

And yes, the penis feels different. There's the "I know I'll get a boner if I need to" flacid and the "this is just a piece of rubber attached to my body" flacid. It's not in your mind.

Of course your mind gets fucked up in a while because you're getting no morning wood and you know for sure that if Scarlett Johansson smiles to you at some bar you'll just look the other way because you know you can't perform so why bother?

You need to restore your HPTA axis and your natty T levels. A healthy lifestyle will help too.

At your age, time is your best bet. I'm not sure how clomid affects the axis, but I know HCG will shut it down even further.

Find an endo that understands the problem and wants to help. Tell him/her you've used steroids and want your natural levels back on everything. Test for thyroid hormones too.

Good luck.

 

[Bushbaby55]

Why did it only happen when I introduced deca

On just test, I was an animal. For almost 10 months, no problems

But yes for the most part you are correct, and the piece of rubber attached to my body was a good description. This guy is useless as far as I'm concerned

 

[mike3000l]

You are taking clomid now correct? What is your dose? Why are you taking clomid; restart, alternative form of hrt? Clomid has the ability to raise test levels on paper but not alleviate symptoms due to estrogenic side effects. That's why many men prefer testosterone replacement. Are you self medicating or is this under supervision of your dr.?

 

[chinaboy]

Give it time and clean your diet the best you can and do cardio a lot. Circulation issues can also hinder your problem.

There is a physiologic reason as well as a psychologic reason. There cannot be just one or the other. Work on both or your in denial. There is no shame seeing a counselor or psychologist. It will only help. And the physiologic fluctuations will balance over time. I would not blame this entirely on deca as there were many hormonal changes for different reasons throughout what regimen you have done. Blaming one substance cannot be entirely accurate. Maybe the deca caused it but probably other things influenced why it has not gone away.

How consistent were you when you tried test boosters? Did you try one at a time. How long were you taking these items? Being consistent and trialling one at a time can help to single out what woks and what doesn't. What have you tried in these 9 months to raise your test? Any supplements?

 

[Bushbaby55]

You are taking clomid now correct? What is your dose? Why are you taking clomid; restart, alternative form of hrt? Clomid has the ability to raise test levels on paper but not alleviate symptoms due to estrogenic side effects. That's why many men prefer testosterone replacement. Are you self medicating or is this under supervision of your dr.?

This is under Dr supervision, taking 50mg EOD to restart endogenous production
Are you saying that after I come off clomid I may "feel" the effects of the increased testosterone, such as a boost in libido?
I've read on this forum that SERMs increasing test production is only temporary and your levels crash again once estrogen is no longer being blocked, can someone weigh in on this?

 

[Bushbaby55]

Give it time and clean your diet the best you can and do cardio a lot. Circulation issues can also hinder your problem.

There is a physiologic reason as well as a psychologic reason. There cannot be just one or the other. Work on both or your in denial. There is no shame seeing a counselor or psychologist. It will only help. And the physiologic fluctuations will balance over time. I would not blame this entirely on deca as there were many hormonal changes for different reasons throughout what regimen you have done. Blaming one substance cannot be entirely accurate. Maybe the deca caused it but probably other things influenced why it has not gone away.

How consistent were you when you tried test boosters? Did you try one at a time. How long were you taking these items? Being consistent and trialling one at a time can help to single out what woks and what doesn't. What have you tried in these 9 months to raise your test? Any supplements?

My diet is very good, but I do need to start doing more cardio. I haven't tried any OTC test boosters but a variety of steroids and ancillaries did not seem to help much. The combination of proviron and cialis seemed to work for a little while but even that eventually became ineffective

 

[mike3000l]

This is under Dr supervision, taking 50mg EOD to restart endogenous production
Are you saying that after I come off clomid I may "feel" the effects of the increased testosterone, such as a boost in libido?
I've read on this forum that SERMs increasing test production is only temporary and your levels crash again once estrogen is no longer being blocked, can someone weigh in on this?

That's exactly what I'm saying. Run the restart like your Dr. is advising and see where you are after the drug has cleared your system. Keep in mind clomid can take up to 10 weeks to fully clear due to zuclomiphenes long half life; 2 weeks. Your levels might crash coming off or they might stick, I'm leaning towards your t level leveling out and maintaining a decent number because you are young.

Your Dr. sounds competent with the subject as many will tell you just to wait it out.

 

[chinaboy]

I have always sworn by tribulus. 1000-3000mg a day. But I would use this when your are coming off clomid. And D-aspartic acid also has been shown to raise natural test. If you try these dont be on any other steroid or something like clomid. And try one at a time and use it consistently for a month or two before trying the other or anything else.

What is your diet? "Its good" doesnt describe much. Describe it as this may help to make changes as well.

 

[AshopRep]

If you had done your research, I think you would have found out that you were far too young to put these substances in your body.

 

[Bushbaby55]

If you had done your research, I think you would have found out that you were far too young to put these substances in your body.

I don't think 21+ is too young, every pro BB'er I have ever heard of hopped on cycle well before their early 20's, also what does age have to do with anything? If I had waited another 10 years, would I have not gotten deca dick?

I have always sworn by tribulus. 1000-3000mg a day. But I would use this when your are coming off clomid. And D-aspartic acid also has been shown to raise natural test. If you try these dont be on any other steroid or something like clomid. And try one at a time and use it consistently for a month or two before trying the other or anything else.

What is your diet? "Its good" doesnt describe much. Describe it as this may help to make changes as well.

I eat a lot of eggs, lean meats, green vegetables, etc. By "good" I meant that it satisfies my macro and micronutrient requirements

 

[nothuman]

I'm a little surprised that cialis didn't even work. Are you sure it wasn't bunk? Cialis is faked a lot these days.