A new look at dieting "gene activation"

[SSFITNESS]

Truly grateful to be in a place with so much knowledge and experience because what I'm proposing is counterintuitive to what many of you may have done during your career. So I need you to really have an open mind going into this. During my competition days I realized that 4 weeks out when I was already lean in a calorie deficit I was putting on muscle to the point where I was always struggling to make my weight class. Off season when I had a calorie surplus it seemed as though it took more of everything to grow and by the tie I dieted down I was only 4 pounds bigger. So I created this diet that had a simple concept give the body only what it needs for that day and not a calorie extra. My macros worked out to 1 gram protein per lean muscle 100 grams carbs and fat only from the protein sources. It came out to roughly 1400 calories a day, the first two weeks I didn't notice anything special except fat loss. After the 2 week point it's like a switch flips and your able to grow muscle while staying extremely lean. So from what i can tell it works because of two major factors that are different from all existing diets. The calories restriction and fasting allows the body to finish digestion early into your sleep cycle, allowing the body to focus on hormone production and tissue repair. The other major difference is the diet mimics the environment of scarcity which activates 6 genes that our modern lifestyle of abundance represses. These genes have an effect on nutrient partioning that's even greater than steroids, the body utilizes every nutrient to make itself stronger and more capable of survival. I think the poor health of our society today is the result of people living their entire life with these genes repressed. I've attach 2 pics that explain everything in further detail and one giving you the actual names of the genes and what their responsible for. So I'm looking for other guys out there who experienced this lean growth during the end of contest prep or anyone looking to try my diet and give their inputs on it

 

[Tomgrass]

Assuming macro i believe we are talking paleo diet.

 

[Flocci]

There are too many flaws here, i dont know what to say.

How much research have you actually done into these genes and how lifestyle, diet, exercise and calorie balance impact them?


MSTN, myostatin, is an inhibitor of muscle gain. We inject GH so we have superphysiological igf1 levels already, we have drugs like cardarine that increases pgc1a that dont do much of anything for fat loss or muscle gain, IL-6 is an inflammatory myokine thats released during regular exercise all the time and too much isnt a good thing either afaik.


What other anecdotes outside of yourself do you have? Its offly vague what this diet of yours is and does and what the good and bad of it is.

To me it sounds like you are trying to create a fad and get yourself out there based off of very limited anecdotes and a few questions thrown into chatGPT.

Theres a typo in your image saying experience instead of exercise by the way.

Im open to hear more about this and how it works and how we can use it to our advantage though, so please educate us.

Im just highly skeptical when we dont really know much about these things in general from the little i know about the research on these things.

 

[Ride'm Cowboy]

How much do you weigh?

 

[SSFITNESS]

Theres only 3 know ways to activate these genes cold exposure, fasting, caloric scarcity. When these genes are activate the body partitions nutrients with one goal to make the individual stronger and more capable of survival. When you eat an excess of calories to try and grow your constantly fighting homeostasis, the body will always try to remain the same. When you force it to grow the body raises cortisol and estrogen requiring you to keep doing more and more to get less of a result. You can still take gh or anything you want with this diet it will only enhance muscle growth. I've used the same diet for everyone I've ever trained the result is always low levels of bf with increased muscularity. Now I'm not saying you can be 250 6 percent bf but I am saying you can certainly be 200 7 or 8 percent bf. Below is the template for my diet

 

[FutureMade]

lmfao ain’t no one taking you serious when you 5’10 and under 200lbs

 

[Stewie]

You might consider correcting how you're denoting these "proteins". When you place a hyphen - between the gene name and number and/or alphabetical letter, this is describing a specific protein or cytokine.The number after the hyphen in the name of a gene or protein, such as IGF-1, IL-6, or PGC-1a, typically serves to distinguish different members of a gene or protein family or to indicate a specific isoform or variant. Theses are considered the primary or ancestral genes- IL6, IGF1 and PPARGC1A.

Also, what you're trying to describe are epigenetic modifications.

 

[qbkilla]

Sounds interesting but your post comes off as trying to sell some diet tbh. That's very low calorie I'd assure most would feel horrible. Interested to hear more though...

 

[KingOfSushi]

So I'm looking for other guys out there who experienced this lean growth during the end of contest prep or anyone looking to try my diet and give their inputs on it

I absolutely also made my best gains eating 1400 calories a day brother

 

[KingOfSushi]

Sounds interesting but your post comes off as trying to sell some diet tbh. That's very low calorie I'd assure most would feel horrible. Interested to hear more though...

Agreed I’m super interested as well, this seems like a very promising diet and the magic bullet we have all been missing over the years.

 

[tommyguns2]

I'm always willing to listen, but I need to understand how your diet does not violate the laws of thermodynamics. More efficient nutrient partitioning is all well and good, but how does growth occur without an energy surplus.

 

[SSFITNESS]

Sounds interesting but your post comes off as trying to sell some diet tbh. That's very low calorie I'd assure most would feel horrible. Interested to hear more though...

Im giving it away for free to anyone who wants ut

lmfao ain’t no one taking you serious when you 5’10 and under 200lbs

Why lots of people want to be ripped and 200lbs. Im not a bodybuilder anymore and I'm an accomplished npc men's physique athlete i won the overall at the 2012 Eastern USA Championship. The division i won had well over 100 competitors so I actually took the stage and earned my stripes.

 

[SSFITNESS]

I'm always willing to listen, but I need to understand how your diet does not violate the laws of thermodynamics. More efficient nutrient partitioning is all well and good, but how does growth occur without an energy surplus.

I use 100 grams of carbs 20 simple the rest complex spread throughout the day in two to three hour intervals. After 2 weeks on the 100 carbs your body adjusts using them efficiently, I've had people on glucose meters do this and their blood sugar stays stable. Muscle will grow because it's damaged tissue needing to be repaired. Part of this lpw calorie and fasting means that your body has to spend less time and energy digesting food. Digesting is a taxing process and will always take priority the body repairing itself simple because once the you eat now the body has to complete 17 processes before it can focus its energy and attention elsewhere. Below is a chart show everything te body has to go through after you eat anything

 

[KingOfSushi]

I use 100 grams of carbs 20 simple the rest complex spread throughout the day in two to three hour intervals. After 2 weeks on the 100 carbs your body adjusts using them efficiently, I've had people on glucose meters do this and their blood sugar stays stable. Muscle will grow because it's damaged tissue needing to be repaired. Part of this lpw calorie and fasting means that your body has to spend less time and energy digesting food. Digesting is a taxing process and will always take priority the body repairing itself simple because once the you eat now the body has to complete 17 processes before it can focus its energy and attention elsewhere. Below is a chart show everything te body has to go through after you eat anything

Your body is surely not ever in a net negative of energy though due to digesting because we’d all starve to death. You’re always going to be providing more energy for your body by eating than you’d theoretically take away by the digestive process.

 

[SSFITNESS]

Your body is surely not ever in a net negative of energy though due to digesting because we’d all starve to death. You’re always going to be providing more energy for your body by eating than you’d theoretically take away by the digestive process.

You are but the body's time to heal itself is while you sleep if your eating large meals before bed your body has to spend its time and energy on digestion instead of repair. I aim for 6 hours per night where my body can solely focus on repair and I believe that's essential for health and muscle growth

 

[KingOfSushi]

You are but the body's time to heal itself is while you sleep if your eating large meals before bed your body has to spend its time and energy on digestion instead of repair. I aim for 6 hours per night where my body can solely focus on repair and I believe that's essential for health and muscle growth

Well then what was the point of that giant write up about the energy used for digestion and how that’s why the low calorie and fasting is better?

And I’m also sure someone of your knowledge is aware that one can be in a caloric surplus and still have more than adequate enough sleep for growth, right?

 

[SSFITNESS]

Well then what was the point of that giant write up about the energy used for digestion and how that’s why the low calorie and fasting is better?

And I’m also sure someone of your knowledge is aware that one can be in a caloric surplus and still have more than adequate enough sleep for growth, right?

Im not talking about adequate im working what the optimal ways are for building muscle. Im trying to work with the body to let these genes create a hyper anabolic environment conducive for lean muscle growth. Instead of forcing it by eating big, training heavier and dosing higher. I'd love more some of you more experienced guys to try it for 6 weeks and you'll see the results will be far from seems logical. Theres been athletes throughout who were examples of this people just didn't know what to attribute their development to so they called them freaks. Hershal Walker ate one meal a day, Vince Tayor ate 3 small meals. Sege Nubret fasted all day long and there's plenty others. I really believe in my diet and will work with anyone who will follow it 100 percent.

 

[bbxtreme]

Im not talking about adequate im working what the optimal ways are for building muscle. Im trying to work with the body to let these genes create a hyper anabolic environment conducive for lean muscle growth. Instead of forcing it by eating big, training heavier and dosing higher. I'd love more some of you more experienced guys to try it for 6 weeks and you'll see the results will be far from seems logical. Theres been athletes throughout who were examples of this people just didn't know what to attribute their development to so they called them freaks. Hershal Walker ate one meal a day, Vince Tayor ate 3 small meals. Sege Nubret fasted all day long and there's plenty others. I really believe in my diet and will work with anyone who will follow it 100 percent.

This all sounds interesting or cool for a bio hacker and lower level physique guys (maybe and not hating), but this is not how you become a serious competitive bodybuilder by any means IMO.

 

[3BILLS]

Link up with @OldManLogan

You guys can hack through things together

 

[SSFITNESS]

This all sounds interesting or cool for a bio hacker and lower level physique guys (maybe and not hating), but this is not how you become a serious competitive bodybuilder by any means IMO.

It depends on the type of bodybuilder you want to be Vince Taylor did pretty well for himself and he never ate much more than 2000 calories a day sometimes only eating twice a day, Paul Dillet very similar. Dorian was able to come in shredded at 260 and he was only eatig around 2400 calories his final month. Until you give it a shot your never going to know