A side note:

[lucian]

Says the guy who backed medrx for free stuff and ridiculed the people that questioned his huge sale that even i could tell it was bs . somebodys a hypocrite.

That's where you are wrong. I backed the. Brand and product which were top quality. Folli which works. Your all big boys and can make up your own minds. I don't sell anything nor do I rep something that is bunk. Any source can scam at anytime. Then anyone can be in my position. Free gear? Lol ug gear cost mere dollars compared to the 124.00 per bottle of test I used to pay back in the day. It's. Not about free. I've been putting info on this board for years to not a penny.

Don't pretend to know me and try and ruin my rep. At pm my rep will never be ruined. That's what I've earned here.

 

[plang]

I do enjoy PM...but there has been quite a bit more of your begginer level questions...."mast vs halo" or "should I add tren" etc...i think people who need to ask what to use obviously haven't done any research at all. It grows tiresome.

 

[johnjuanb1]

This board used to be filled with diet info, training info, and drug info. Now it's all about drugs. Post a thread about a diet and you'll get 5-10 responses if you're lucky. Post a thread about what Phil Heath is taking and you'll get 20 pages

So, what is Phil Heath taking? just kidding. But seriously, what is Phil Heath taking???

 

[richiec]

So, what is Phil Heath taking? just kidding. But seriously, what is Phil Heath taking???

Well JJ, my wife's brother's roomate's aunt's brother-in-law's (who's in prison) step son said that he saw what Phil was taking during prep this yr, so it must be true!

 

[VanDyke]

family, you just joined. how much family do you have here? i dont even know who you are!

its the first place they look because of the rep the board has....and how do you think it git the rep? YEARS of good bros watching out for each other. unless you have been on here lurking for years and years than you have no idea what im talking about how this used to be. if the vets here suddenly stopped giving out info....everyone would be fucked. its not the newbies, its the vets that made this place. PLUS many here are looking for gear. plain and simple. they dont give a shit about anyone on here at all.

lucian

wow, and youre demanding respect and brotherhood with such post????. Respect goes a long way.

 

[saps]

lucian raises some good points that I think most of us can recognize are completely valid. The bottom line is like anything in life when you have an issue you must choose to be part of the problem or part of the solution. We can't live in the past and wish things were they why they used to be. We can try make it better. If the circumstances are too great to overcome get outta Dodge

 

[Crowler]

lol

guys calling out other guys for being new to the forum.

 

[Hardworking2012]

Hey ross,

I'm on hrt dose of test and want to add on something for fat burn lean muscle but not aas.

I'm sort of priming myself for a cycle in feb.

Any suggestions

 

[johnjuanb1]

Well JJ, my wife's brother's roomate's aunt's brother-in-law's (who's in prison) step son said that he saw what Phil was taking during prep this yr, so it must be true!

Hahahahaha...I heard he was on that new peptide extracted from the pituitary gland of a silver-backed gorilla embryo....Igf-69statinRB9. :headbang:

 

[lucian]

wow, and youre demanding respect and brotherhood with such post????. Respect goes a long way.

Demand? I've earned respect and brother hood. I've met up w quite a few members in person as well as added to the board for years. I'm not a keyboard cowboy who makes claims. If I don't have your respect so be it. I'm not trying to be liked by everyone. I do however care what his on here and haven't simply bailed out when I don't get what I want.

I however will not be helping like I have in the past. SimPly because some people here feel like they are owed the info for just being here. This is not get big. Respec used to be shown here at all times and broa aired things out. Things have just changed. The old broa know what I'm talking about.

 

[VanDyke]

I do enjoy PM...but there has been quite a bit more of your begginer level questions...."mast vs halo" or "should I add tren" etc...i think people who need to ask what to use obviously haven't done any research at all. It grows tiresome.

I see your point , but what is this forum for?/ you want a Vet only forum , hell make this site a private one then...whats wrong with helping new guys with questions that you probably asked yuorself 3-4 years ago ?? you guys really crack me up with this non sense...Some of you need to come down from whatever cloud y'all hangin on and realize you aint no top 5 at the Arnold and physique wise some of us can school you "vets".

 

[concreter]

Thats exactly what luciun and plang mean, you jump on here trying to school vets as a newbie. Why because your young did a ton of juice and developed muscle and an attitude. No respect. Go put your finger in your dyke.
Hey plang hows the growing, hav'nt seen a thread in a while. Still des'n?

 

[VanDyke]

Thats exactly what luciun and plang mean, you jump on here trying to school vets as a newbie. Why because your young did a ton of juice and developed muscle and an attitude. No respect. Go put your finger in your dyke.

whatever man..I'm not planning to get banned by getting into a non-sense argument.. but you have no idea how old i am? or what i have accomplished in this sport? i'm done....have a nice day

 

[Chode Logan]

Phil Heath is natural

 

[lucian]

Being a vet isn't about how much gear you use, how big you are or even who you know. It's about being in a comunity for a long time, proving yourself, helping people and being treated with respect. That part has been lost. Let me paint a pic:

Many years ago there were no forums. You got info at the gym. From the big guys. You showed them respect hoped they open up and teach you and you were thankful and didn't talk back and start shit for fear they would cut you off and then kick your ass. Now with the net there are. None of those fears and you can just hit up another site anytime for gear. It's old vs new school and old school. These new school punks will eventually ruin shit and nobody will help anyone.

Ive actually had kids ask me for gear in he gym. Straight out! Back in the day that shit would never happen. No respect. Like everyone is owed info or foods just because they want it. Times have changed and I'm not the only one who sees it.

That's what being a vet is. And yeah that deserves respect ie respect your elders! Lol

 

[IPGear]

I see your point , but what is this forum for?/ you want a Vet only forum , hell make this site a private one then...whats wrong with helping new guys with questions that you probably asked yuorself 3-4 years ago ?? you guys really crack me up with this non sense...Some of you need to come down from whatever cloud y'all hangin on and realize you aint no top 5 at the Arnold and physique wise some of us can school you "vets".

We agree, it is very important that we do not forget where we cam from and that new members are like new blood, a necessity for the health of the board.

Its funny, we can have recent threads about why we lïke PM and everyone talks it up and pretty much the end concensus was it was a pretty specioal place.

The more theres this blowup over producttesting and the extreme responses from both sides and the calling out of people as if they were supposed to know, we are just phucking it up.

Its Big As place and he explained it a week or to ago. He set it up for him and his friends a place to relax, doctors and lawyers and peoipl from all walks of life. And we are all guests.

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As far as we could tell, guests nothing more nothing less. And poeple who continue to create problems or sources who scam are going to be told to go.

Thats what I love most about PM. Its Big A, hes created and led his mods in the direction they should go, and today the mods are imperfect leaders but they are leaders in their own right. And then you got some sources who are leaders and some members........ we need more leaders at PM!

Its a great place,

 

[aussiebulldog]

lucian raises some good points that I think most of us can recognize are completely valid. The bottom line is like anything in life when you have an issue you must choose to be part of the problem or part of the solution. We can't live in the past and wish things were they why they used to be. We can try make it better. If the circumstances are too great to overcome get outta Dodge

good post.

 

[aussiebulldog]

Lucian. you know you got tons of respect here , and for good reason.
but you have to understand , the change is not here only it is everywhere.
like you said about people that approach you in the gym and never would have.

 

[Dado5]

People come and people go.. All these newbies will be vets one day.
We all started as newbies.... Yes there are some stupid questions asked and people should use search button.

 

[ShortStop]

All questions have been asked b4. Asking what size pin to use is a lil rediculous,lol....but u know what ill answer it becuz i want to help. My experience with AAS only goes back to 07 so im still learning alot. I dont know shit compared to the vets and pros on here. You guys 4got more than i know. I wish i could get some of the knowledge or advice from some of u vets n pros on here but thats all there seems to be is newbee threads on the open forum. I wont answer a thread unless i have some personal experience on the subject. All im saying is maybe take the time and come down to a level mayb where u once were many years back and help someone out without thinking its a stupid question. I dont have to many post on here i read n search alot. This board has a wealth of information unlike any other out there and in my mind is the best one ive come across and im not saying that to kiss somebodies ass! I dont hear from to many vets and pros on here and that sucks for me becuz i want to know what u know. The only time u hear from them is when there pushing there products. Mayb ill have to wait for the book or pay for the training. Ya know from my perspective it sure would be nice to get a hand out of info or some advice just becuz you remember what it use to be like to be me.