A Solution to Tren- Understanding Histamine and how to regulate it

[MAD_SCIENTIST]

If yall ever want to try the real thing….you should get your hands on some cromolyn sodium

Interesting @heavyhitter ... had to Google it.
You have any real world experience with cromolyn sodium? In relation to tren usage?

MS

 

[heavyhitter]

Interesting @heavyhitter ... had to Google it.
You have any real world experience with cromolyn sodium? In relation to tren usage?

MS

Sure do. I have MCAS(mast cell activation disorder). Been on a regimen of quercetin, Zyrtec x2, b5, Flonase x2, famotadine, and Cromalyn for it for some time now. It certainly does help, but I still can’t manage tren due to the myriad stomach issues I have

 

[slesh]

Sure do. I have MCAS(mast cell activation disorder). Been on a regimen of quercetin, Zyrtec x2, b5, Flonase x2, famotadine, and Cromalyn for it for some time now. It certainly does help, but I still can’t manage tren due to the myriad stomach issues I have

It’s incredible how you’ve been able to identify and treat all your random health issues

 

[heavyhitter]

It’s incredible how you’ve been able to identify and treat all your random health issues

Ended up finally having testing for this done after years of trying to pinpoint my root cause. My older sister actually has it as well

 

[Pizza15]

Nice. Good to hear.

I sleep fine when not on Tren

Some gear wires me a bit so I use a tab of Benedryl to knock me out at times and it does the job well - except for Tren. Tren just laughs at anything I take including Ambien (unless I take a higher dose).

Since Benedryl is an anti-histamine and that’s where the sedation comes from as we know, wouldn’t DOA and the others also have a sedative effect?

I can’t be a zombie at work.

In Italy we can't get benadryl since it's banned substance, the only antihistamine I use is Ketotifene (because the Clean thingie), but I have a strange reaction to it.... It takes a lot of hours to work and lasts too much time, the next day I end up like a zombie too.

Will add Bromelin soon to see if I can get even more benefits.

 

[Pizza15]

So in short you would advice to keep estrogen on the lower end of normal?

I use these guidelines for E2:

Offseason: <75-100pg/ml
Offseason with 19-nors: <50pg/ml
Maintainance: 35-55pg/ml
Cutting/Contest prep: 20-35pg/ml

Most of the time I try to keep E2 near 50 which in my country is the upper limit. Also where I feel the best.

 

[headtrainer]

I’ve never tried DAO. But I’ve tried Benadryl with Tren and it made me feel worse than using Tren solo. Benadryl is an anticholinergic drug that is strongly linked to causing dementia. Studies suggest that people who use Benadryl daily have a 54 percent increased risk of developing dementia.And when you combine that with the potential damage Tren does to the brain by increasing the production of amyloid-beta plaques in the brain—you get a double whammy! I know for a fact that my memory and cognition is much worse when taking Benadryl and it gives me low grade depression. I believe Benadryl is a very harmful drug we need to avoid at all cost. Just my opinion…..

 

[Fattyone]

I’m not on tren, but the only way I can get some decent sleep is with Benadryl.

Ambien, melatonin, teas, trazadone, lunesta.. none of it works. I took 18mg (1.5 pills) time releases ambien last night, up all night and now up for good at 4:20am (alarm set for 5:30).

I’m trying not to take Benadryl because Alzheimer’s runs on my dad’s side of the family. But fuck it would almost be worth it.

Should I try these DAO’s and Zyrtec? Probably a histamine thing or my body just likes Benadryl?

 

[bbxtreme]

I’m not on tren, but the only way I can get some decent sleep is with Benadryl.

Ambien, melatonin, teas, trazadone, lunesta.. none of it works. I took 18mg (1.5 pills) time releases ambien last night, up all night and now up for good at 4:20am (alarm set for 5:30).

I’m trying not to take Benadryl because Alzheimer’s runs on my dad’s side of the family. But fuck it would almost be worth it.

Should I try these DAO’s and Zyrtec? Probably a histamine thing or my body just likes Benadryl?

I would figure out what is disrupting your sleep, but I would try DAO and Histablock before bed and see if that eliminates the Benadryl as I’m not a fan personally of using it long term.

 

[Fattyone]

I would figure out what is disrupting your sleep, but I would try DAO and Histablock before bed and see if that eliminates the Benadryl as I’m not a fan personally of using it long term.

I’ve had a couple sleep studies done and been down countless avenues. My body just wants to kill itself and not let me sleep.

 

[bbxtreme]

I’ve had a couple sleep studies done and been down countless avenues. My body just wants to kill itself and not let me sleep.

There’s something behind it, but it would take a full assessment and intake to get to the bottom of it.

But try the two suggested items above instead of Benadryl. You can get both on Amazon.

 

[Fattyone]

There’s something behind it, but it would take a full assessment and intake to get to the bottom of it.

Where do I go to get one of these?

 

[bbxtreme]

Where do I go to get one of these?

You’d have to find someone to do a consult with you. I don’t have the time right now personally, but you could reach out to Kurt Havens for an assessment as he’d be at the top of my list for a bodybuilder.

 

[Fattyone]

You’d have to find someone to do a consult with you. I don’t have the time right now personally, but you could reach out to Kurt Havens for an assessment as he’d be at the top of my list for a bodybuilder.

Thanks. I sent him an email.

 

[Bio-hazard]

Maybe I missed it but what daily doses do you recommend for holy basil, stinging nettle and quercetin? I've been out of the game for awhile and thus, kinda out of shape so now that I'm jumping back in I'd like to baby step back and slowly add tren back bc when I was younger it was just "tough out the sides".

 

[Type-IIx]

After writing https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/androgens-and-acid-reflux-peptic-ulcer.134407933/ I recall the adage, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." And where creative license is used, mistakes are generally made.

If it ain't broken; don't try to fix it.

This looks to be a product of AI tools.

 

[Type-IIx]

@bbxtreme https://askus.library.nd.edu.au/faq/273477

 

[slesh]

I’ve had a couple sleep studies done and been down countless avenues. My body just wants to kill itself and not let me sleep.

Not trying to be a dick but based on your username are you severely overweight? That might have something to do with it.

 

[bbxtreme]

After writing https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/androgens-and-acid-reflux-peptic-ulcer.134407933/ I recall the adage, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." And where creative license is used, mistakes are generally made.

If it ain't broken; don't try to fix it.

This looks to be a product of AI tools.

@bbxtreme https://askus.library.nd.edu.au/faq/273477

Yo bro… some of us write stuff from scratch and don’t use ChatGPT. Sorry you are still butt hurt I called you out on citing things.

I am missing how you think any part of an article I wrote for my business was mirrored or took from you?

Sounds like someone needs to get off their high horse and stick to your weekend Q&A’s.

Flattered it took you this long to try and find some shit to throw. Get a fucking life.

Mods- feel free to lock this thread. I ignored his first pathetic post. The second one is on him.

 

[bbxtreme]

Maybe I missed it but what daily doses do you recommend for holy basil, stinging nettle and quercetin? I've been out of the game for awhile and thus, kinda out of shape so now that I'm jumping back in I'd like to baby step back and slowly add tren back bc when I was younger it was just "tough out the sides".

It’s a few pages back in the thread. I give the exact amounts I used.

Or Histablock by Nature’s Sunshine has a nice blend that includes it.