While I appreciate BMJ's compliment, I do not debate from a point of authority. If I am wrong, then I am wrong.
The problem with your friend's assertion is two fold: one, a review of PubMed shows nothing in regards to anabolic steroids having a cidal or static activity on the intestinal flora. And two, the assertion is being falsely supported by the conclusion. Because a probiotic supplement produced alleviation of the symptoms, then the original correlation of anabolics causing bactericidal effects must be true. The problem with this line of argumentation is that there are numerous reasons for intestinal alteration of microbial flora -and thus discomfort -steroids not being one of them.
Probiotics can alleviate some intestinal issues. There is no reason to believe that steroids are causing an alteration of microbial flora.
Was it the acidophilus pearls you got from the giant? I hear the bacteria thrives if they are enteric coated and those ones are, which explains why I had success with them in the past.
But of late, I've been random acne and bad acid reflux.. Possibly due to bad digestion and toxins seeping from the skin.
I'll give these probiotics a whirl.. What brand was the refrigerated brand that was used? Udo's?
Well friend, doctors are trained to give you expensive drugs and even more expensive treatments, they are very ignorant when it comes to simple natural cures, I,m glad you are doing better, God bless you. Minister.
Hi Minister - Just wanted to share an article that I wrote on digestion that might have some things you want to try. I posted an excerpt from it on this site a while back...
Regards,
JM
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Sorry about that Micro, didn't mean to leave an appeal to authority fallacy
Thanks for pointing that out.
BMJ
Ok, point well taken, however if you think that PUBMed is the final answer to everything we are going to disagree in a whole lot of other things. This is why I believe my friend, he said there are a lot of studies that prove that steroids have a negative impact on the good bacteria because steroids suppress the immune system therefore causing subtle fungal infections in intestinal lining,contributing to elimination of friendly flora, the studies he gave me were not on test or Deca, but other steroids used for leaky gut syndrome and other ailments but they work through the exact same mechanism, so again just because PubMd doesn't have those studies , it doesn't mean that it can be possible. Blessings,Minister.
I would be very interested in any studies you have on this topic.
I'll try to find it , he gave me a link on research of the impact of antibiotics and steroids on the good bacteria. Read it last night and that's why I started this thread because I never heard of it before and wanted to know if anyone had any info. I'll post it on here as soon as i can, Blessings. Minister.
I would be very interested in any studies you have on this topic.
Dear Minister and Micro2000, you two seem very smart in different ways. Micro is by the book and, Minister is by broscience "actual experience". I love that term. But we all know everything is not by the book or broscience. There is always a happy medium. I always get upset stomach when on cycle. Heck I have it now on HRT dosages. It happens to the point that I can not even eat. Nothing seems to work. Maybe probiotics will cause the symptoms to go away as Minister wrote but may not be the root of the problem like Micro2000 wrote. I just wanna be greedy again!!
The Beggar
Dear Minister and Micro2000, you two seem very smart in different ways. Micro is by the book and, Minister is by broscience "actual experience". I love that term. But we all know everything is not by the book or broscience. There is always a happy medium. I always get upset stomach when on cycle. Heck I have it now on HRT dosages. It happens to the point that I can not even eat. Nothing seems to work. Maybe probiotics will cause the symptoms to go away as Minister wrote but may not be the root of the problem like Micro2000 wrote. I just wanna be greedy again!!
The Beggar