Acceptable dosing deviations

[Breck1044]

Joos was a POS too. I posted in their thread about testing stuff and it was deleted. Reason "rep request". If anybody has seen their list it could be a number of things besides gear or just a voluntary pull back. Either way, no big loss.

I looked in my messages, and Joos name was changed to "Deleted member 29964"

 

[Siggy]

Joos was a POS too. I posted in their thread about testing stuff and it was deleted. Reason "rep request". If anybody has seen their list it could be a number of things besides gear or just a voluntary pull back. Either way, no big loss.

lmao...moral of the story, dont get your gear off a guy name "Joos"

 

[MickeyDoyle]

Yea I checked too. It’s all gone. Their email list doesn’t work according to someone I talked with

Unsure of the email but going from guaranteed sponsor to any mention, along w the reps, wiped off the board is not the norm.

 

[JP Flex]

Right before he was taken off the boards, both a friend and I completed transactions with him. I noticed the T/A was taking longer than usual, so I checked the forum and saw that both he and the rep were suddenly gone. I reached out several times since, but he completely ghosted me.

A mod told me it appeared to be a security issue and that he was expected to return, but at this point I doubt that’s happening. With the reports about underdosed products now coming out, it really looks like he went full scammer. If I had known about the underdosed issues beforehand, I never would’ve placed another order this round. Looking back, it almost seems like he was setting up an exit the whole time. That’s just speculation on my part, but I honestly don’t see another explanation.

At this point, I guess we just charge it to the game.

 

[dieselbuilder]

but I honestly don’t see another explanation.

I mean he probably got busted. It’s a pretty reasonable explanation.

I imagine if they were planning on returning it would’ve been handled differently.

Now I wouldn’t go near them with a 60 ft pole if they returned. Before I was aware of their underdosed gear I stocked up with them. Their stuff works for me honestly. If I am getting a little less so be it. I run everything pretty low dose as it is. That being said I wouldn’t have ordered more from them anyway.

Also sorry you lost your $ man. Shit sucks

 

[tommyguns2]

I'm OK with a vial being overfilled. If you give me 11mL of test when I've paid for 10mL, all is good. I'd rather gear be overdosed than underdosed, obviously, but I really want it to be accurately dosed. I think plus/minus 10% is a bigger error window than I find acceptable. Plus/minus 5% seems more reasonable.

My guess would be that in the absence of raw testing on every batch a source receives, a source brews at +10% to account for impurities in the batch. But without testing every new batch received, the source is rolling the dice that he's subsequently selling complete crap; either no hormone at all, the wrong hormone, or severely underdosed.

Underdosing by the source seems moronic. Given the cost associated with the vial, the capping, the labor associated with brewing, etc., trying to save a little by shorting the actual hormone is extremely short sighted. But not every source is a good businessman.

 

[pimpman]

I had similar experience wih underr-dosed test, specifically the 30mg. sus. blend. Any reccomenadions for an affordable and viable alernative? Any help would be great, going on to a blast tin week but need a trustworthy alternative.

Agreed, any suggestions on reliable sources on here, I've used uncle Z a while back and their shit was good, just took forever to ship.

Board rules no source asking. You will get banned brother. I’m sure a mod will tell you the same

 

[Mufasa123]

FYI Alfresco posted similarly before but US FDA standard for pharma injectibles for test and other similar is below. We all like to see perfection but expecting ugl to exceed pharma manufacturing tolerances seems a little much IMO.


According to United States Pharmacopeia (USP) standards, which the FDA enforces, manufactured injectable testosterone must contain a specified percentage of the label claim. This ensures the potency falls within a strict, acceptable range, such as 90.0% to 110.0% of the stated mg/mL, for the medication to be released for use.Manufacturing and Regulatory Details Potency Tolerance: The active pharmaceutical ingredient must consistently test within this range (90-110%) to meet quality standards.Manufacturing Overage: Manufacturers may include a small amount of extra active ingredient, often a small percentage, during the formulation process to ensure the product maintains its label claim strength throughout its shelf life.General Usage Information: Injectable testosterone is FDA-approved for specific medical conditions, and administration frequency and strength are determined by a healthcare provider based on individual patient needs.For comprehensive information regarding regulatory standards for pharmaceutical testing, refer to the USP Uniformity of Dosage Units guidelines. For specific brand-name formulation data and official labeling, refer to DailyMed.Disclaimer: This information is for general knowledge regarding pharmaceutical standards and should not be taken as medical advice. Always consult with a healthcare professional regarding medication use.

 

[pesty4077]

Agreed, any suggestions on reliable sources on here, I've used uncle Z a while back and their shit was good, just took forever to ship.

How long you been here and you didn't read board rules???

 

[Hebrewhercules]

I've een on here for a while, I was just in a it of a panic mode. Definitely won't happen again.

 

[Hebrewhercules]

Board rules no source asking. You will get banned brother. I’m sure a mod will tell you the same

I've been on here quite a while, circumstances led me to have a momentary lapse of judgement.

 

[pimpman]

I've been on here quite a while, circumstances led me to have a momentary lapse of judgement.

Yea it happens I’ve had mine lol

I didn’t mean it in a bad way just a friendly reminder. Hope it did come across differently

 

[Hebrewhercules]

Not at all man. I appreciate it. My regular hookup is gone and I briefly panicked. Hope you are doing well

 

[Hebrewhercules]

I retired from competion about 6 years ago and was off alll my shit when I started on sus at 375mg. per week. Any suggestions on how to taper down to 250 whule starting to stack it with Tbol? any dosing and or timing suggestions for how to do this. ?

 

[pimpman]

Not at all man. I appreciate it. My regular hookup is gone and I briefly panicked. Hope you are doing well

I’m doing good brother hope you are as well anything I can help with hit me up

 

[pimpman]

I retired from competion about 6 years ago and was off alll my shit when I started on sus at 375mg. per week. Any suggestions on how to taper down to 250 whule starting to stack it with Tbol? any dosing and or timing suggestions for how to do this. ?

Why are you trying to tape down to try ?

 

[Slowstack]

Right before he was taken off the boards, both a friend and I completed transactions with him. I noticed the T/A was taking longer than usual, so I checked the forum and saw that both he and the rep were suddenly gone. I reached out several times since, but he completely ghosted me.

A mod told me it appeared to be a security issue and that he was expected to return, but at this point I doubt that’s happening. With the reports about underdosed products now coming out, it really looks like he went full scammer. If I had known about the underdosed issues beforehand, I never would’ve placed another order this round. Looking back, it almost seems like he was setting up an exit the whole time. That’s just speculation on my part, but I honestly don’t see another explanation.

At this point, I guess we just charge it to the game.

I noticed something off recently last time that the list worked, the packaging was completely different than I’d ever received before and I didn’t receive a Christian pamphlet with my order which was a hallmark for king labs, and I noticed that they were open all day every day according to a post which was NEVER the case previously. Previously (Ive ordered from them for several years and was introduced to them on another forum) their instructions made it clear that placing an order after whatever time Thursday or maybe Friday wouldn’t be dealt with until Monday etc. So suddenly proclaiming 24/7 availability and not including Christian literature alerted me that something was certainly different. However I won’t speculate beyond that.

One other thing for new guys to be aware of, probably 2 or 3 years ago on a different forum I remember sources and/or reps shitting on king labs over testing. That exact same source was later found to be selling test prop labeled as something else. Just because someone high fives you in the comments doesn’t mean they are clean either.

 

[NeonCypher]

10%

Agreed completely.

Lately, I've been questioning purity testing (quantitative analysis). I've been studying the results from several well respected individuals in this space who adjust their recipes based on raw assay results, typically compensating with a 10% overage.

Interestingly, the finished product often comes back significantly overdosed. That leads me to the simple conclusion that the initial raw material assay may have been inaccurate or improperly representative of the batch.

Of course, there could be another variable I'm overlooking, but that was my first conclusion.

 

[Bullman77]

I noticed something off recently last time that the list worked, the packaging was completely different than I’d ever received before and I didn’t receive a Christian pamphlet with my order which was a hallmark for king labs, and I noticed that they were open all day every day according to a post which was NEVER the case previously. Previously (Ive ordered from them for several years and was introduced to them on another forum) their instructions made it clear that placing an order after whatever time Thursday or maybe Friday wouldn’t be dealt with until Monday etc. So suddenly proclaiming 24/7 availability and not including Christian literature alerted me that something was certainly different. However I won’t speculate beyond that.

One other thing for new guys to be aware of, probably 2 or 3 years ago on a different forum I remember sources and/or reps shitting on king labs over testing. That exact same source was later found to be selling test prop labeled as something else. Just because someone high fives you in the comments doesn’t mean they are clean either.

are they gone? I haven’t ordered in a while today no reply.

 

[Slowstack]

are they gone? I haven’t ordered in a while today no reply.

No idea buddy. Haven’t checked in a while.