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Add a short term oral?

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I have been studying cycle strategy. Seems that many discourage any orals over injectables, which makes total sense to me (liver tox). Hopping into different threads I would commonly see experienced guys suggest an oral for 4~ weeks somewhere in the cycle.

My planned “lean bulk” cycle is test/primo/NPP. Should I consider a short term oral with this, or keep it simple?
 
I have been studying cycle strategy. Seems that many discourage any orals over injectables, which makes total sense to me (liver tox). Hopping into different threads I would commonly see experienced guys suggest an oral for 4~ weeks somewhere in the cycle.

My planned “lean bulk” cycle is test/primo/NPP. Should I consider a short term oral with this, or keep it simple?
Solid cycle, bro. Test/Primo/NPP is already a great lean bulk stack
no need to complicate it. Orals are just for a quick kick or finish, not essential. Keep it injectable-only this round and see how you respond first.
 
I have been studying cycle strategy. Seems that many discourage any orals over injectables, which makes total sense to me (liver tox). Hopping into different threads I would commonly see experienced guys suggest an oral for 4~ weeks somewhere in the cycle.

My planned “lean bulk” cycle is test/primo/NPP. Should I consider a short term oral with this, or keep it simple?
thats a solid stack right there there, dont over complicate it like a lot of guys do. theres no reason to "front load" a cycle.

Solid cycle, bro. Test/Primo/NPP is already a great lean bulk stack
no need to complicate it. Orals are just for a quick kick or finish, not essential. Keep it injectable-only this round and see how you respond first.
completely agree, just stick with it and keep it consistent. too many guys want immediate results so they throw everything at the wall to see what sticks and it never works out.
 
thats a solid stack right there there, dont over complicate it like a lot of guys do. theres no reason to "front load" a cycle.


completely agree, just stick with it and keep it consistent. too many guys want immediate results so they throw everything at the wall to see what sticks and it never works out.
Appreciate the verification. Fast gains are great but definitely not my expectation. Hoping for noticeable gains at a gradual pace that I can retain a decent amount of post-cycle.

I’ve been at 500 test for 4 weeks. Looking to gradually add primo to 250, and I was debating about keeping NPP lower, and not crossing 200. I’ve read a lot in regard to 19nor sides. Namely trying to make sure the magic stick stays magic for the wife.
 
i dont see why you couldnt do 25dbol pre train for 6 weeks.
 
People add in a shorter period on an oral in a stack for:

1) get blast going faster as longer esters build in system (don't do thus)
2) break through plateaus toward the end of a run
3) better cosmetics at end of a run

That's about it. Some guys will use orals pre training for some push in the gym or better recovery on training days.
 
I have been studying cycle strategy. Seems that many discourage any orals over injectables, which makes total sense to me (liver tox). Hopping into different threads I would commonly see experienced guys suggest an oral for 4~ weeks somewhere in the cycle.

My planned “lean bulk” cycle is test/primo/NPP. Should I consider a short term oral with this, or keep it simple?
(I didn’t read the comments prior to posting, pardon if it’s already said)

I have two thoughts on this:

Firstly, if you’re new to AAS, i would suggest using orals for your first time. This way, IF you’re experiencing any issues/negative reactions from the hormone, it’s easy to stop and clear your system of the medication within hours… injections, depending on esters and dose level, can take up to two (three for some) weeks to exit.

Second, using oral during cycle (if you are new) is unnecessary for the moment. Orals are expensive per dose.

Does this make sense?
 
I like that stack and it's actually the one that I'm using I was on masteron and then I switched back to Primo, I just like the way Primo looks but you know Master on certainly has its place too and I love masteron. I absolutely include a couple of orals in my cycle Debol 40 mg a day broken out into two doses and 50 mg of winstrol. I'm at 8% body fat I'm five six and weigh about 180 lb. I like the way the Dbol makes me feel, more importantly you will definitely put on size and strength in a bulk cycle with Dbol. I'll stick with that for about 4 to 5 weeks and then I'll jump on to another all with the blood work supports it and work in some Anodrol and anavar, most important if the blood work supports it so I have a lot of supplementation to support my liver and kidneys and everything else and if that's good then I'll finish up the orals so I'll do a complete oral cycle will be about 6 to 7 weeks on top of my injectables.
 

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