Adding more test to a cycle

[usd610]

So I'm just finished week 9 of what was originally supposed to be a 12 week test e cycle @750mg/week. Was gonna switch to short esters at that point for contest prep. Decided to push back the contest to gain more size for a little. I'm adding in NPP@ 600mg/week for 8 additional weeks, and was gonna bump my test e up to 1200mg/week. About how long Would it take my blood levels to get stable and start seeing the difference between 750 and 1200. Also, do you think 8 additional weeks is long enough for ramping up the test?

 

[BigNShredded]

So I'm just finished week 9 of what was originally supposed to be a 12 week test e cycle @750mg/week. Was gonna switch to short esters at that point for contest prep. Decided to push back the contest to gain more size for a little. I'm adding in NPP@ 600mg/week for 8 additional weeks, and was gonna bump my test e up to 1200mg/week. About how long Would it take my blood levels to get stable and start seeing the difference between 750 and 1200. Also, do you think 8 additional weeks is long enough for ramping up the test?

Do you really NEED to increase the dosage? You added DECA; Why not ride that out for a bit, and THEN perhaps increase the testosterone dosage if you still think you need to. 1200mg is a LOT of testosterone, almost double what you have now..

 

[usd610]

I understand what your saying. My thinking is just a little different. Ive ran over a g of test before and had great results. Im currently 250lbs and looking to get up to 270 by January to start prepping for my first show. The reason I was only running 750 at this time was due to $$, which I now have, otherwise I would have been running a higher dose from the start. My last 2 cycles before this were 750 test e, 500 tren e, 400 eq for 16 weeks. And before that 700 prop 500 tren ace for 8 weeks. Ive always had trouble breaking through to 260lbs and figured the high dosage this round could help break that plateau. My diet is on point and I dont drink. Im taking in roughly 4500-5000 cals a day. Ive noticed if I take in more I get a little to soft. My diet is based off Dave Pulcinella 6 foods that work diet, but I add in venison, ground turkey, yams, almonds, evoo.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

If you are not using HGH, you are just wasting all that test

 

[raw33man]

the only reason why bodybuilders do 2 grams of test is because of GH and slin other than that alpha is spot on

 

[TrenBrah]

If you are not using HGH, you are just wasting all that test

Pretty strong statement don't you think? Not everyone can afford gh and people get great results with AAS stand alone.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Pretty strong statement don't you think? Not everyone can afford gh and people get great results with AAS stand alone.

Sure they do, but not on tons of test without HGH. Test and HGH are like brothers. The higher the HGH, the more test your body can take. I would increase the dose of something else before I would increase the test with no HGH in my blood.

 

[usd610]

Sure they do, but not on tons of test without HGH. Test and HGH are like brothers. The higher the HGH, the more test your body can take. I would increase the dose of something else before I would increase the test with no HGH in my blood.

Do you know of any studies or research on that point? Im not saying your wrong at all. One thing I love about anabolics is its a constant stream of new knowledge and Id love to read a study in that. Ive ran growth before about 4 years ago but only at 4ius/day for 6 months. Dont have the funds for it now though. was thinking about giving IGF a try but wanna do some more research on that as well. I do know some people that have never touched growth and have made amazing gains while just sticking to AAS, sometimes running test as high as 1.5g/week.

 

[tr]

For me test dosage definately makes some difference

Now doing 200mg test eod - pretty decent dosage for me, but nowhere as full as strong and as big as I am on 1000-1200mg/week
I think Dave Palumbo has meantioned that real growth begins after 1000mg test

 

[mike1107]

If you are not using HGH, you are just wasting all that test

I dont think so
HGH might increase test absorption by the body but no way in hell he is wasting all that test

 

[sammy555]

The test being a waste might be a strong statement but gh does indeed make the test a lot more effective and will indeed unlock the true potential of the test. I see no reason why the same doesn't apply to any gear really not just Test. Tren and gh play even better together imo

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[aminoman74]

test tren gh and slin sounds like a winner.only iif you know how to run all of it .

 

[highlife]

you can go to roidcalc.com

 

[BroncoJunkie]

So I'm just finished week 9 of what was originally supposed to be a 12 week test e cycle @750mg/week. Was gonna switch to short esters at that point for contest prep. Decided to push back the contest to gain more size for a little. I'm adding in NPP@ 600mg/week for 8 additional weeks, and was gonna bump my test e up to 1200mg/week. About how long Would it take my blood levels to get stable and start seeing the difference between 750 and 1200. Also, do you think 8 additional weeks is long enough for ramping up the test?

Id stick between 500 - 750mg of TEST. If you need more size, there are plenty of other compounds that will help with that. IGF for instance.

 

[mike1107]

The test being a waste might be a strong statement but gh does indeed make the test a lot more effective and will indeed unlock the true potential of the test. I see no reason why the same doesn't apply to any gear really not just Test. Tren and gh play even better together imo

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I been up to 290lbs with with around 12-13% bf for 5'9 without even looking at an HGH vial
I think I felt the "true power" of test without HGH

HGH rocks but IMO it is not a MUST

 

[Elvia1023]

I been up to 290lbs with with around 12-13% bf for 5'9 without even looking at an HGH vial
I think I felt the "true power" of test without HGH

HGH rocks but IMO it is not a MUST

Exactly. Bodybuilders seem to do good in the 60's and 70's without gh. Your not 'wasting' the test if you don't use gh with it. Although at the same time I wouldn't be doing 1.5g test with no gh (your not getting the most of it without gh). I would spend my money on gh and if that means taking a lower test dose then so be it.

For now I would personally use other compounds than higher the test dosage. As BNS stated your adding in npp so your upping as it is. No need to up the test too... or have you taken more than this in the past?

 

[TNH]

I agree with BNS; you've added NPP (which is a damn strong anabolic IMO), ride that out and add more test once you stall.



Regarding the grams of test with no GH...I see there are some 'pupils' in here
I think people take that information too literally. There are plenty of gains to be made on 2g of test whether or not GH is in there. Don't get me wrong, I 100% agree that GH added to it will have a dramatic impact, but I am also sure that the high dose of test will not be wasted without GH.
There has always been guys blasting grams of test without GH, and I'm sure their gains were better on that than when they ran 750-1,000mg.

tr - who is that in your avatar?

 

[emeric delczeg]

Exactly. Bodybuilders seem to do good in the 60's and 70's without gh. Your not 'wasting' the test if you don't use gh with it. Although at the same time I wouldn't be doing 1.5g test with no gh (your not getting the most of it without gh). I would spend my money on gh and if that means taking a lower test dose then so be it.

For now I would personally use other compounds than higher the test dosage. As BNS stated your adding in npp so your upping as it is. No need to up the test too... or have you taken more than this in the past?

HGH cause a great increase in muscle connective tissue (sarcoplasm) and very little increase in contractle elements (myofibrils) that give the muscle its strenght. The only reason you would need gh with that ridiculous dose (1.5g test) because anabolic steroids build weak connective tissue, the biggest source of injury among steroid users. Gh reduce this problem. So gh will not help to gett more out of test.

 

[usd610]

Exactly. Bodybuilders seem to do good in the 60's and 70's without gh. Your not 'wasting' the test if you don't use gh with it. Although at the same time I wouldn't be doing 1.5g test with no gh (your not getting the most of it without gh). I would spend my money on gh and if that means taking a lower test dose then so be it.

For now I would personally use other compounds than higher the test dosage. As BNS stated your adding in npp so your upping as it is. No need to up the test too... or have you taken more than this in the past?

Ive ran test that high before, and also have run much more then just test and NPP in the past. Ive ran cycles totaling close to 2g before consisting of test, tren, eq, and HGH. Just dont have the funds for HGH right now, currently unemployed and picking up work where I can.

 

[teslacsten]

If you are not using HGH, you are just wasting all that test

Did you just make this up? Sorry, it just makes you look uneducated and talking out your ass. Mike and Emeric both said it best. I seen pictures of Mike when he was that big and it was impressive. I lived with Greg Nesbit for ten years and he never touched growth and if he had tried he could have been amazing at anything he did bodybuilding or powelifting or wrestling in WWE. So I have to disagree with ya on this one.