Advice for pct for an 8month blast and cruise!

[newyboy1]

Hey guys , just after some advice on coming off an 8 month blast and cruise ...
Cycle only consist of sus250 .. Was cruising at around 250mg bumping it up too 1000mg 4 weeks on 4 weeks off .. Was seeing good results how ever I ran out of test about a month ago ... I went with out any test for 2.5 weeks, during this time my body shutdown, I lost all sex drive and was finding it hard to maintain erection.. than managed too get more test , which turned out too be dirty and both times I shot it I got an infection in the spot hit ... So I've got rid of it and have made the decision tO come off .. So I was off any test for 2.5 weeks ... I then did 2 shots of test .. Last Monday and thursday... I still feel completely shut down ... So IMO I should start my PCT next Thursday which is 2 weeks after my last shot .. Or should I just start it now and try get my test producing again??

On hand I have NOLVA , CLOMID and ADEX .. I have a script for Hcg but it's currently not available in australia so it's out of the question ...
So my question is how do I work this pct for quickest recovery as my girl friend is really off me ATM and thinks the low sex drive is her ..

My usually protocol after a 3 mOnth cycle is nolva @ 40,40,20,20 but I believe I need something a bit more aggressive

 

[bbg420]

dont use a-dex that will make libido worse in pct, i think you could throw the clomid in with nolva ,i would keep the nolva at 20mg ed drop the clomid and get some toremifene and aromasin and use those 3, clomid causes to many sides for me

 

[bbg420]

oh btw forget the hcg now your in pct it will only make recovery harder hopefully you where using it during cycle in small doses, so if it where me i do toremifene nolva and aromasin, your gonna need a power combo after being on 8 months

 

[SAGE74]

Your pct should have started weeks ago! Good luck jump starting those nut's!

 

[raw33man]

damn you will go through shit !

why not TRT man ? Pin once a week or every 2 weeks:\

at least you won't go the roller coaster way, gaining then losing, happy then depression

 

[Mrpersonality]

I was courious about this pct my girls brother who has no clue what he's doing had been running test for about 6 months. I wasn't sure if this was to the point of permanent shutdown or not. I told him he needs to do as much PCT as possible and soon but he's gonna do what he's gonna do.

 

[Dog-Slime]

Weeks 1-4 Aromasin 25mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED, DAA 6g ED, Nolva 20mg ED

Weeks 5-8 Aromasin 12.5mg ED, Nolva 20mgs ED

That would be my personal choice. Many may only need half that dose of aromasin and the clomid and daa can be ran longer if you feel its needed.

 

[newyboy1]

damn you will go through shit !

why not TRT man ? Pin once a week or every 2 weeks:\

at least you won't go the roller coaster way, gaining then losing, happy then depression

hey mate wont that just make pct much worse when it comes time too do it??

i really just want my sex drive back atm its making me feel like shit :sta:-wars

 

[raw33man]

hey mate wont that just make pct much worse when it comes time too do it??

i really just want my sex drive back atm its making me feel like shit :sta:-wars

Man this is absolutely my opinion... If folks are serious enough to take AAS, they better go on TRT and save themselves some time and money

what's the point of doing 16 weeks cycles, get horny, feel good, gain 15 pounds and then on PCT and after lose 5 7 pounds, not horny and feel depressed plus MOST likely you will lose your motivation at the gym, what's the point of this roller coaster ?... never get off test, all it takes is 100-200mgs of test e a week, and that's the SWEETEST spot ever, I feel the best at that dose, and won't even get side effects, your bloodwork will go close to normal

The only time id consider a PCT is when I'm going to get my future wife pregnant

 

[tman88]

Man this is absolutely my opinion... If folks are serious enough to take AAS, they better go on TRT and save themselves some time and money

what's the point of doing 16 weeks cycles, get horny, feel good, gain 15 pounds and then on PCT and after lose 5 7 pounds, not horny and feel depressed plus MOST likely you will lose your motivation at the gym, what's the point of this roller coaster ?... never get off test, all it takes is 100-200mgs of test e a week, and that's the SWEETEST spot ever, I feel the best at that dose, and won't even get side effects, your bloodwork will go close to normal

The only time id consider a PCT is when I'm going to get my future wife pregnant

While very tempting to just stay on many of us realize priorities and things in life change and do not want to end up in a point where we are stuck taking a shot every 1-2 weeks for LIFE. Now if at some point I find I legitimately cannot recover it would be much easier to accept TRT. Also, for me age plays a large role in my openness to TRT.

That said...there are definitely some benefits to TRT as I hate the roller coaster of PCT. Also, with proper ancillaries you can generally conceive on cycle/TRT without too much fuss (from many recent threads I've read) which makes TRT far less imposing since kids are important to me in the future.

Plus, there is always that "what-if" where I've been on TRT for 20 years and then for some reason I cannot fill my prescription or find it underground. Unlikely but it does need to be considered.

The OP being on for 8 months is a bit risky, but people have recovered from far dumber cycles. I would run the Nolva and Clomid but also consider getting your hands on Torem instead as many people have fantastic results with that. It may also be worth looking into Triptorrellin, in theory it should work wonders, but for every good review I've seen an unsatisfied review.

 

[Dog-Slime]

And lets not try to convince people that they need trt. That is a big life decision and should not be taken lightly and should be done on ones own merit. He asked about pct so lets answer about pct not try to talk the guy into never coming off gear again...

 

[bbg420]

good point dog

 

[newyboy1]

Thanks for the great input guys, lots of great replys ..
I think for now I'll deal with the pct , give my body a break .. I'm only 25 so I have plenty of time too jump back on .. And maybe consider trt in the future .. But for now I'm gunna focus on getting natty test back .. I'll give it a few months and see how I'm feeling and decide if I wanna go thru it again or maybe stay on ...

Well my plans so far is too hIt pct with what I already have and see how I go so how do u think this looks

Nolva 40 / 40 / 20 / 20 / 20 / 20
Clomid 100 / 100 / 50 / 50
Daa 6g daily
And maybe throw in some trib, I know it's shit but anything too get back up and running will be great help

 

[SAGE74]

Thanks for the great input guys, lots of great replys ..
I think for now I'll deal with the pct , give my body a break .. I'm only 25 so I have plenty of time too jump back on .. And maybe consider trt in the future .. But for now I'm gunna focus on getting natty test back .. I'll give it a few months and see how I'm feeling and decide if I wanna go thru it again or maybe stay on ...

Well my plans so far is too hIt pct with what I already have and see how I go so how do u think this looks

Nolva 40 / 40 / 20 / 20 / 20 / 20
Clomid 100 / 100 / 50 / 50
Daa 6g daily
And maybe throw in some trib, I know it's shit but anything too get back up and running will be great help

To late now bro, here comes your E2 rebound, you will loose everything, you will feel like shit. I didn' do PCT once, now I will have to take hrt for the rest of my life. Get some hcg now! But this is only my opinion good luck.

 

[newyboy1]

I don't understand why it's too late ? I have been on test for 8 months ... I only missed 2 weeks with out it .. I then did another 500mg a week
Ago .. Now I'm
Waiting another week for the test too clear then
I'm
Starting pct?? Isn't this norm protocol? How else do guys come
Off long cycles

 

[bm2611]

I was shutdown pretty hard earlier this year. what I did that worlked great while off everythign was

clomid 100 mgs a day for 1 month
nolva 20 mgs day for a month
hcg 500 iu a day for 20 days.

I have done hcg both small does daily and 5kiu 2x a week for two weeks and the 500iu a day did temendously better then the large dose. goodluck

maybe also in mean time ostarine so yo dont lose to much gains.

 

[newyboy1]

If I were too goto a trt dosage and start using Hcg also ... Until
I decide I deff entry want too come off, will this make
Things better or worse .. Because from
What I hear now , this pct is just gunna destroy all my gains ... My reason for wanting too come off are increased Hairloss , anger and slight depression ATM
While
On cycle , my brain doesn't seem all there ... But maybe it's just my life ATM amplified by the aas

 

[Gaintrain]

bro u should always be prepared man seriously u should have orderd more test that u was currently on when u was getting low on supply!!! if it was working why did u allow yourself to run out/ and why switch brands???:banghead:

 

[solarsentinel]

Two things....

1) Grab some Triptorelin and look up all the posts on exact timing for it's use. It will bring your boys back fast.

2) How do you feel the blast and cruise with Sust compares to Test C or Test E. I have been blast cruise on TestC for some time and am thinking of switching over to Sust. What kind of results did you see over the 8 months, and particularly during your four week blasts? How was the bloat during blast? How were the other sides?

Thanks and good luck

SS

 

[Dog-Slime]

If I were too goto a trt dosage and start using Hcg also ... Until
I decide I deff entry want too come off, will this make
Things better or worse .. Because from
What I hear now , this pct is just gunna destroy all my gains ... My reason for wanting too come off are increased Hairloss , anger and slight depression ATM
While
On cycle , my brain doesn't seem all there ... But maybe it's just my life ATM amplified by the aas

I wouldn't listen to these guys. I am same age as you and have recovered from 6month to 1 year cycles at least twice. Currently Im coming off a bulk of about 12weeks then jumped into an 8 week cut that was bridged into a 6 week fight prep was gonna come off then but the fight promoter begged me to come back the next month and fight again so ran it out another 4 weeks. So actually I was on about the same amount of time as you and have now been completely off for about 4 weeks and I have only lost 7lbs of weight and maybe 10-15lbs on my biggest lifts. Sex drive has not been an issue. I am running the exact pct I outlined earlier. I maybe one of the lucky ones but you never know how you will recover till you try it yourself. If your recovery sucks then think about TRT or just dont do long cycles again but atleast you'll know. I too just dont feel right when I have been on cycle for a long time and I just feel 10x better after clearing out and running a good pct even if I dont stay off for as long as most would suggest.


Anyways the pct you outlined looks good but I would just run the nolva at 20 for 8 weeks and the clomid at 50 for 6 weeks. No reason to taper these and the longer time on them will benefit your recovery. You can prob still recover without it but if possible I would add some aromasin as it will help increase free and total t which is very important for you right now.