AIs or SERMs on cycle?

[sluggy]

Hey guys,

I've been hearing more and more that guys (JM, few others) aren't using AIs anymore to control estrogen on cycle, instead they're using SERMs like nolva.

AIs
Pros:
- Prevents aromatase enzyme from converting our testosterone to estrogen (keeps test higher?)
- Keeps estrogen in "healthy" range
- Lower water retention, should be easier on the heart

Cons:
- Harder on the lipids/cholesterol
- Harder on the kidneys
- Easy to get estrogen "too low"

SERMs
Pros:
- Not as bad on the lipids/cholesterol
- Less taxing on organs(?)
- Doesn't get rid of estrogen(?)

Cons:
- Increased estrogen in some tissue
- Increased risk of cancers with chronic use


What else you got? What do you guys think is more optimal? What do you do? Thoughts? What is your dosing like?

 

[sluggy]

So no one takes SERMs on cycle then?

 

[ironceltic12]

Metabolites from nolvadex actually can reduce estrogen.

 

[MikeS]

I use clomid 3x wk year round. Slight estro blocking (probably not as good as nolv) but hopefully can maintain some HPTA function going.
I don't want to use AIs, effects too extreme, and also not good on blood lipids.
I might use and AI if I had a water retention issue, or gyno, but I don't (I consider myself fortunate)... at about 1g wk AAS.

 

[MR. BMJ]

Aromasin with either Nolva or Toremifene added in as needed. Depends what I am taking...though I use just mainly low test these days.

 

[Reno911]

I prefer Nolva these days. Much easier on my lipids and keeps my sex drive high and erections strong. Even with my estradiol dialed in on AI's my dick just doesn't work very well.