ALL READ - NEW BOARD RULE

[hogan87]

What makes a sponsor guaranteed? Because they have been around long enough? Paid enough? Total BS. Testing should be on the SPONSOR! PROVE you are a real guaranteed sponsor by paying an extra $1-200/mo and be up for random testing twice a month. Earn that guaranteed badge!

I did personally get mast e from a so called guaranteed sponsor that was 20% under dosed. The cialis did nothing! To me that badge currently carries little weight.

 

[Ranchhand]

Agreed and I would be in for this and donate. I think most serious members here would.

This board doesn’t owe anyone anything and we don’t owe it anything. We currently get out of it what we post, or don’t post.

If everyone wants skin in the game then we must contribute through our time or money for transparency on testing, which must be done objectively.

well said

 

[01dragonslayer]

 

[Sectør]

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[MooseKnuckles]

I like this and would donate for it. Maybe a reasonable yearly donation would cover it. Or a set donation of a lower amount where you could see a specific thread or sponsor's thread on testing where you could keep revisiting through the year to see testing. A nominal donation would really add up over time with people revisiting the sight over and over again through the year. Throwing ideas out there.

I will donate like I always have in the past.

I agree unless you donate you don't see the results

 

[pothole]

I don’t really understand what the anisci style testing really proves.

It’s not like every compound from every source on the board is tested or even at a frequency that made it relevant.

I don’t care if a batch of primo from 3 months ago tested out okay. I want to know what the current batch I’m paying for looks like.

A consistent track record of testing is needed for every batch produced. That’s how you create accountability.

 

[control]

Personally, I found one source that I trust, and I stick with that one source. I stopped trying new sources awhile ago, even though some of them may be cheaper. I'd rather pay the source I trust than try a new source and pay for testing.

 

[silvaback]

You're not to bright if you think these sponsors on every forum on the internet send in blind samples. LMAO.

members can send in blind samples

 

[RandomLifter]

members can send in blind samples

It seems like to me tho folks are saying that even blind samples to Jano aren’t trustworthy…?

TBH I could see it. I mean, if you test something thru him, and it comes back inconsistent, you’re almost certainly going to send something else.

 

[Siggy]

Personally, I found one source that I trust, and I stick with that one source. I stopped trying new sources awhile ago, even though some of them may be cheaper. I'd rather pay the source I trust than try a new source and pay for testing.

I try to buy only from a handful of established international labs that have been around over a decade. But I still get the gear tested.

 

[buck]

If a sponsor is routinely sending Jano samples and paying him Jano would know who they were most likley. And to keep the money flowing he may give them better results then they really have.
Then there is the question as to how diligent Jano is with his testing.
A sponsor can send in a sample he knows is good then water down the rest of the batch and pan it off as the same batch.
If i send in a sample and post the results people have to trust that the sponsor i say it is, is actually who i got the product from.
In the end it all comes down to trusting or not the person that is being dealt with.

 

[workingclass]

If a sponsor is routinely sending Jano samples and paying him Jano would know who they were most likley. And to keep the money flowing he may give them better results then they really have.
Then there is the question as to how diligent Jano is with his testing.
A sponsor can send in a sample he knows is good then water down the rest of the batch and pan it off as the same batch.
If i send in a sample and post the results people have to trust that the sponsor i say it is, is actually who i got the product from.
In the end it all comes down to trusting or not the person that is being dealt with.

sounds like this is what is meant by biased

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side note: this thread is about to quickly turn into a mirror image of the one that was the reason for creating it

 

[buck]

sounds like this is what is meant by biased

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side note: this thread is about to quickly turn into a mirror image of the one that was the reason for creating it

yup

as a side note i am wondering if this will pass the mark for the Sam Sulek thread!

 

[pupu]

It worked great but then donations started to slip.

Bring back anasci imo

Donate - get badge - view results

No donation - no badge - no freelancers

Easy

 

[gib68sg]

I don’t really understand what the anisci style testing really proves.

It’s not like every compound from every source on the board is tested or even at a frequency that made it relevant.

I don’t care if a batch of primo from 3 months ago tested out okay. I want to know what the current batch I’m paying for looks like.

A consistent track record of testing is needed for every batch produced. That’s how you create accountability.

I get what you’re saying but there’s also the trends to look out for. Does a sponsor consistently test poorly? Does a sponsor always pass with flying colors? Idk it’s as good a system as I’ve seen besides ponying up and sending in your own stuff.

 

[traininsane11]

We’re just gonna have to take double the dose to hopefully make up for any underdosed items #science

 

[rAJJIN]

sounds like this is what is meant by biased

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side note: this thread is about to quickly turn into a mirror image of the one that was the reason for creating it

If you notice the guys here belly aching are few and fairly new. Mostly migrated over from Closed forums. The ones that have been here for years were already a part of all this.

 

[pothole]

I get what you’re saying but there’s also the trends to look out for. Does a sponsor consistently test poorly? Does a sponsor always pass with flying colors? Idk it’s as good a system as I’ve seen besides ponying up and sending in your own stuff.

I pony up and send in my own samples. Then I cross check that against what source results show.

 

[gib68sg]

I pony up and send in my own samples. Then I cross check that against what source results show.

So isn’t that same thing as checking against anasci test results? What would be the difference? I guess I’m not following. Personally when I test my own products I don’t feel the need to see what others may have gotten, because I know what I have.

 

[pesty4077]

members can send in blind samples

You think some of these members don't favor one sponsor over another or have vested interested? You only been here since July. You think I am going to trust your blind sample? Maybe a VET who has credibility, certanly not you.