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The other day reading some material written by Dr Hatfield in the 1980's I came across a Russian secret supplement called Mumie.
Now since then it has/was been marketed as or by Atlekia in the early 1990's along with a few other compounds..feedback was mixed.

I found this article ...
Mumie, more commonly known as Moomiyo
"Mumie (pronounced and known as Moomiyo)

Though Mumie has been used in folk medicine of different countries for almost two thousand years, there are still many legends regarding its mysterious origin. In Russia serious research has been conducted on Mumie since 1910. This research became even more intense during the past twenty years Government financing supported research that was conducted at major laboratories within the national science and medicine academies of the republics from Mumie's origin (Middle Asia region of the former USSR (Kirgysia, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan).

Health organizations aren't the only groups interested in Mumie. In Russia and many of the former USSR republics, Mumie is considered a strategic material and is used extensively as a performance enhancer within the armed forces (Spetnaz and other elite fighting groups) to help prepare cosmonauts before and during space travel, and as an important part in the restoration programs of national and Olympic-level athletes. It was surprising to me that Mumie was unknown to American athletes until recently when it was introduced by a Russian/American company in 1991.

To locate the origin for the word Mumie, one would have to go back 2,500 years to the time of the ancient philosopher and scientist Aristotle. He proposed the first procedures for testing the compound as well as its initial preparation in grape juice, honey and milk. Mumie is often used by ordinary persons to treat bone fractures and strains of muscles and ligaments, stomach disorders, nervous and cardiovascular problems, the inflammation of joints, and impotence. It is a good bio-stimulator, serves to elevate the immune system and neuro-hormonal regulation, controls oxidation-reduction processes, and has a positive influence on mineral metabolism. The most recent survey of the practical applications of Mumie have come from Moscow through the efforts of Drs. A.A. Altamyshev and B.K. Kortshubelkov and supported by the Russian Committee of Cosmonautics. To date, several hundreds research investigations have been conducted on Mumie which clearly point to its mechanisms of action and its usefulness.

In sports, Mumie is prized for its significant tonic and anabolic effect on both physical and mental processes. According to many coaches and physicians inside the Russian national program, the Soviet government allocated a budget of five million rubles to the USSR State Sport Committee for research and application of Mumie as a natural anabolic for sport use in the preparation of athletes for the 1988 Olympic games in Seoul. Thanks to this research, plus much practical experience using Mumie in sport over the past several years, it is now well understood why the compound is highly beneficial to athletes.

An important role in the formation of Mumie is the climatic condition of the region from which it comes. Within this region are found many thousands of plants and herbs. For example, the Tajikistan republic is home to over 6,500 different plants, over half of which are not found anywhere else in the world. It is this great variety of highly bioactive material, combined with the proper climate (temperature, light and moisture), which contributes to the development of Mumie.

The general character of this region facilitated the formation of specific plant forms enriched in either oils, alkaloids, glycosides, saponins, chlorophyll, carotenes, flavonoids, cumarines, etc., each serving as a valuable raw material for the pharmaceutical and food industries. The diversity of plant materials causes a unique variability of animals in the region, and wild animals from this area differ biologically from animals of other parts of the world as characterized by a richer content of microelements and biologically active compounds in their organs and muscles.

While Mumie samples from different regions may appear to have the same color (dark brown to black), smell (sweet), and consistency (tar-like), their chemical composition, and thus their usefulness in medicine and sport, is often different. Thanks to many years of experience by researchers and athletes, it is well accepted that Mumie from the Tajikistan region is the most potent and useful for sportsmen. Collectors who then process the raw material into a final extract often harvest Mumie from the floor of mountain caves.

From the ceilings of the high mountain caves hang black icicles having the specific smell and bitter taste of Mumie. For this reason, Mumie has been referred to as "mountain tear," "blood mountain," and "balzam of rock." It is the digest of the floras at the crest of the mountains under very special conditions, which produce the Mumie, which then drops to the base of the caves where it can be collected. Because this special digest accumulates no more than twice a year, Mumie is a rare find. A kilo of extract may require the collection of many raw kilograms over a period of one month.

Dr. Sergey Sarymsakov established the standard chemical makeup of Mumie at the Institute of Organic Chemistry of the Kirgizy Academy of Sciences. He reported the chemical composition to contain over 30 microelements, which yield 30 percent of its total weight, 10 metal oxides, 6 amino acids, steroids, B-complex vitamins, certain essential oils, carbon, fatty acids, and resin-like compounds. Plant and mineral residues and extractive substances in water are 24.97-30.3 percent.

Short-term cycles of use (10-12 days) are all that is necessary to reach the stimulating (restorative and anabolic) effect of Mumie in sport. These cycles are often repeated 3-4 times after a 15-20 day break. The effects include the activation of the anabolic processes on the cell molecular level in different organs and systems (blood, liver, myocardium, skeletal muscles, lymphatic system, central and peripheral nervous systems, skin and hair, and gastro-intestinal tract).

Mainly because of its growth-promoting ability, Mumie has become popular among Russian and other East European athletes. Mumie is commonly introduced during the periods of high intensity training and on into recovery. It is given at a dose of 150mg for 2-3 times daily. The first course is a half-hour before training (preloading). The second is a half to one hour after the workout (for short-term recovery). The third is taken one hour before bedtime (for long-term recovery and growth).

What's the best way to use Mumie for maximum sport result? I recommend short cycles of Mumie for 7-10 days at a dosage of 300-600mg daily. The best period to use Mumie is during the last week of a hard training cycle and for about a week into recovery. This course can be repeated after a 2-3 week break. The result will commonly be a significant increase in recovery, a more efficient adaptation to training.

According to unpublished information (personal communications with Russian elite athletes, coaches, and sport scientists) such a pharmacology plan allows for an increase in the intensity of the training loads (volume and weight) within both micro and macro-cycles by 15-27 percent! This is a significant improvement at any level of sport. Furthermore, Mumie considerably facilitates the complete long-term overnight recovery as documented by the morning biochemical (creatinine and lactate concentration, lymphocyte and neutrophile ratio) and hormonal (testosterone to cortisol ratio, the norepinephrine to epinephrine ratio) blood and urine test.

Additional short courses of Mumie are also highly beneficial under circumstances of over training, and physical and emotional stress during both pre-competitive and competitive periods. One good example of successful use of Mumie was its application within the training and restorative plan of the 1992 Olympic champion in hammer throw, Andrey Abduvaliyev from Tadjikistan. Andrey is a native of Dushanbe, the capital of Tadjikistan and the home to the highest-quality Mumie in the world. His pharmacology program focused on Mumie as the major bioactive supplement.

There is one more aspect of the benefits application of Mumie to sport, which relates to its adaptogenic attributes. Like other adaptogens (Eleuthrococcus, Ranatarin, Ginseng, etc.), Mumie can be effective at preventing age-related hormone-dependent disorders and correspondingly should have been considered as a nutrient for noncompetitive athletes over the age of forty who still participate in fitness programs. An opinion exists (A. V. Blagovestshensky, Kologrivova, 1985) that the stimulating attributes of Mumie relate to the high content of dicarbonic acids (succinic, glutamic and aspartic). These bioactive instances appear in the final substance as a result of oxidative deamination of amino acids during the long-term conservation (formation) period of Mumie (V.A. Vib, 1981). The same mechanism is thought to be responsible for Mumie's outstanding anti-inflammatory and healing effect. It's very beneficial at reducing joint soreness of the knees, shoulders and elbows of heavy lifters.

In summary, Mumie continues to play an important growth-promoting and restorative role in the preparation of elite athletes in Russia and other former USSR republics. Bodybuilders, power lifters and others in the West have only recently received the benefits of Tadjikistan Mumie since its importation to the USA by the Russian/American company, Atletika. Mumie is recommended highly for any athlete of the intermediate or advanced level who pushes his or her workouts to the limits. Mumie is also very beneficial to athletes with joint and connective tissue stress.

REFERENCES

1. Abu Ali Ibin Syna, The canon of physician's science. Tashkent, 1956. 2. Altamyshev A.A., The medicinal treasure of Kirgizia (of natural origin). Frunze, 1976. 3. Altamyshev A.A., Kortshubekow B.K. What we know about Mumie. Moscow, 1989. 4. Anitshkov S.V., The selective action of transmitters. Leningrad, 1974. 5. Bosse G., The vitamin plants and their nutritional application. Moscow, 1943. 6. Voinar A.O., The biological role or microelements in the organisms of animal and humans. Moscow, 1953. 7. Wolf E.V., The world resources of beneficial plants. Leningrad, 1969. 8. Zelinsky S.S., The medicinal plants in the USSR. Moscow, 1958. 9. Kovaleva N.G., Healing by plants, Moscow, 1971. 10. Mashlovsky M.D., The medicinal compounds. Moscow, 1992. 11. Nuraliev Y., Denisenko H. Mumie and its medicinal properties. Dushanbe, 1997. 12. Syrova N.M., Revealing the secrets of Mumie. Tashkent, 1969.
"

If anyone wants to research some of the references go for it.

I am looking at this supplement as well as a few others, one is called the toxic avenger and supposedly a natural anti-e etc but then again we'll see.
I have become geniunely interested in productive and restorative as well as preventive medicine through supplements applied to anti-aging and safety lately so I will try to keep everyone posted on more, but please feel free to contribute and post to these threads as well.
I have found a source for mumie and will be trying it in the next month or so.
 

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Dr. Squat was a helluva nice guy and a great lifter. Never heard of the supplement mentioned, but it was an interesting read.
 

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Read about it in Anabolic Primer. That and Retibol come to mind.
 

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The other day reading some material written by Dr Hatfield in the 1980's I came across a Russian secret supplement called Mumie.
Now since then it has/was been marketed as or by Atlekia in the early 1990's along with a few other compounds..feedback was mixed.

I found this article ...
Mumie, more commonly known as Moomiyo
"Mumie (pronounced and known as Moomiyo)

Though Mumie has been used in folk medicine of different countries for almost two thousand years, there are still many legends regarding its mysterious origin. In Russia serious research has been conducted on Mumie since 1910. This research became even more intense during the past twenty years Government financing supported research that was conducted at major laboratories within the national science and medicine academies of the republics from Mumie's origin (Middle Asia region of the former USSR (Kirgysia, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan).

Health organizations aren't the only groups interested in Mumie. In Russia and many of the former USSR republics, Mumie is considered a strategic material and is used extensively as a performance enhancer within the armed forces (Spetnaz and other elite fighting groups) to help prepare cosmonauts before and during space travel, and as an important part in the restoration programs of national and Olympic-level athletes. It was surprising to me that Mumie was unknown to American athletes until recently when it was introduced by a Russian/American company in 1991.

To locate the origin for the word Mumie, one would have to go back 2,500 years to the time of the ancient philosopher and scientist Aristotle. He proposed the first procedures for testing the compound as well as its initial preparation in grape juice, honey and milk. Mumie is often used by ordinary persons to treat bone fractures and strains of muscles and ligaments, stomach disorders, nervous and cardiovascular problems, the inflammation of joints, and impotence. It is a good bio-stimulator, serves to elevate the immune system and neuro-hormonal regulation, controls oxidation-reduction processes, and has a positive influence on mineral metabolism. The most recent survey of the practical applications of Mumie have come from Moscow through the efforts of Drs. A.A. Altamyshev and B.K. Kortshubelkov and supported by the Russian Committee of Cosmonautics. To date, several hundreds research investigations have been conducted on Mumie which clearly point to its mechanisms of action and its usefulness.

In sports, Mumie is prized for its significant tonic and anabolic effect on both physical and mental processes. According to many coaches and physicians inside the Russian national program, the Soviet government allocated a budget of five million rubles to the USSR State Sport Committee for research and application of Mumie as a natural anabolic for sport use in the preparation of athletes for the 1988 Olympic games in Seoul. Thanks to this research, plus much practical experience using Mumie in sport over the past several years, it is now well understood why the compound is highly beneficial to athletes.

An important role in the formation of Mumie is the climatic condition of the region from which it comes. Within this region are found many thousands of plants and herbs. For example, the Tajikistan republic is home to over 6,500 different plants, over half of which are not found anywhere else in the world. It is this great variety of highly bioactive material, combined with the proper climate (temperature, light and moisture), which contributes to the development of Mumie.

The general character of this region facilitated the formation of specific plant forms enriched in either oils, alkaloids, glycosides, saponins, chlorophyll, carotenes, flavonoids, cumarines, etc., each serving as a valuable raw material for the pharmaceutical and food industries. The diversity of plant materials causes a unique variability of animals in the region, and wild animals from this area differ biologically from animals of other parts of the world as characterized by a richer content of microelements and biologically active compounds in their organs and muscles.

While Mumie samples from different regions may appear to have the same color (dark brown to black), smell (sweet), and consistency (tar-like), their chemical composition, and thus their usefulness in medicine and sport, is often different. Thanks to many years of experience by researchers and athletes, it is well accepted that Mumie from the Tajikistan region is the most potent and useful for sportsmen. Collectors who then process the raw material into a final extract often harvest Mumie from the floor of mountain caves.

From the ceilings of the high mountain caves hang black icicles having the specific smell and bitter taste of Mumie. For this reason, Mumie has been referred to as "mountain tear," "blood mountain," and "balzam of rock." It is the digest of the floras at the crest of the mountains under very special conditions, which produce the Mumie, which then drops to the base of the caves where it can be collected. Because this special digest accumulates no more than twice a year, Mumie is a rare find. A kilo of extract may require the collection of many raw kilograms over a period of one month.

Dr. Sergey Sarymsakov established the standard chemical makeup of Mumie at the Institute of Organic Chemistry of the Kirgizy Academy of Sciences. He reported the chemical composition to contain over 30 microelements, which yield 30 percent of its total weight, 10 metal oxides, 6 amino acids, steroids, B-complex vitamins, certain essential oils, carbon, fatty acids, and resin-like compounds. Plant and mineral residues and extractive substances in water are 24.97-30.3 percent.

Short-term cycles of use (10-12 days) are all that is necessary to reach the stimulating (restorative and anabolic) effect of Mumie in sport. These cycles are often repeated 3-4 times after a 15-20 day break. The effects include the activation of the anabolic processes on the cell molecular level in different organs and systems (blood, liver, myocardium, skeletal muscles, lymphatic system, central and peripheral nervous systems, skin and hair, and gastro-intestinal tract).

Mainly because of its growth-promoting ability, Mumie has become popular among Russian and other East European athletes. Mumie is commonly introduced during the periods of high intensity training and on into recovery. It is given at a dose of 150mg for 2-3 times daily. The first course is a half-hour before training (preloading). The second is a half to one hour after the workout (for short-term recovery). The third is taken one hour before bedtime (for long-term recovery and growth).

What's the best way to use Mumie for maximum sport result? I recommend short cycles of Mumie for 7-10 days at a dosage of 300-600mg daily. The best period to use Mumie is during the last week of a hard training cycle and for about a week into recovery. This course can be repeated after a 2-3 week break. The result will commonly be a significant increase in recovery, a more efficient adaptation to training.

According to unpublished information (personal communications with Russian elite athletes, coaches, and sport scientists) such a pharmacology plan allows for an increase in the intensity of the training loads (volume and weight) within both micro and macro-cycles by 15-27 percent! This is a significant improvement at any level of sport. Furthermore, Mumie considerably facilitates the complete long-term overnight recovery as documented by the morning biochemical (creatinine and lactate concentration, lymphocyte and neutrophile ratio) and hormonal (testosterone to cortisol ratio, the norepinephrine to epinephrine ratio) blood and urine test.

Additional short courses of Mumie are also highly beneficial under circumstances of over training, and physical and emotional stress during both pre-competitive and competitive periods. One good example of successful use of Mumie was its application within the training and restorative plan of the 1992 Olympic champion in hammer throw, Andrey Abduvaliyev from Tadjikistan. Andrey is a native of Dushanbe, the capital of Tadjikistan and the home to the highest-quality Mumie in the world. His pharmacology program focused on Mumie as the major bioactive supplement.

There is one more aspect of the benefits application of Mumie to sport, which relates to its adaptogenic attributes. Like other adaptogens (Eleuthrococcus, Ranatarin, Ginseng, etc.), Mumie can be effective at preventing age-related hormone-dependent disorders and correspondingly should have been considered as a nutrient for noncompetitive athletes over the age of forty who still participate in fitness programs. An opinion exists (A. V. Blagovestshensky, Kologrivova, 1985) that the stimulating attributes of Mumie relate to the high content of dicarbonic acids (succinic, glutamic and aspartic). These bioactive instances appear in the final substance as a result of oxidative deamination of amino acids during the long-term conservation (formation) period of Mumie (V.A. Vib, 1981). The same mechanism is thought to be responsible for Mumie's outstanding anti-inflammatory and healing effect. It's very beneficial at reducing joint soreness of the knees, shoulders and elbows of heavy lifters.

In summary, Mumie continues to play an important growth-promoting and restorative role in the preparation of elite athletes in Russia and other former USSR republics. Bodybuilders, power lifters and others in the West have only recently received the benefits of Tadjikistan Mumie since its importation to the USA by the Russian/American company, Atletika. Mumie is recommended highly for any athlete of the intermediate or advanced level who pushes his or her workouts to the limits. Mumie is also very beneficial to athletes with joint and connective tissue stress.

REFERENCES

1. Abu Ali Ibin Syna, The canon of physician's science. Tashkent, 1956. 2. Altamyshev A.A., The medicinal treasure of Kirgizia (of natural origin). Frunze, 1976. 3. Altamyshev A.A., Kortshubekow B.K. What we know about Mumie. Moscow, 1989. 4. Anitshkov S.V., The selective action of transmitters. Leningrad, 1974. 5. Bosse G., The vitamin plants and their nutritional application. Moscow, 1943. 6. Voinar A.O., The biological role or microelements in the organisms of animal and humans. Moscow, 1953. 7. Wolf E.V., The world resources of beneficial plants. Leningrad, 1969. 8. Zelinsky S.S., The medicinal plants in the USSR. Moscow, 1958. 9. Kovaleva N.G., Healing by plants, Moscow, 1971. 10. Mashlovsky M.D., The medicinal compounds. Moscow, 1992. 11. Nuraliev Y., Denisenko H. Mumie and its medicinal properties. Dushanbe, 1997. 12. Syrova N.M., Revealing the secrets of Mumie. Tashkent, 1969.
"

If anyone wants to research some of the references go for it.

I am looking at this supplement as well as a few others, one is called the toxic avenger and supposedly a natural anti-e etc but then again we'll see.
I have become geniunely interested in productive and restorative as well as preventive medicine through supplements applied to anti-aging and safety lately so I will try to keep everyone posted on more, but please feel free to contribute and post to these threads as well.
I have found a source for mumie and will be trying it in the next month or so.
Still very poular in track and field, I know that some of the USA track and field athletes are using it.
 

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Cool read-now everyone whos read it will be asking where to get it- thanks for the post.
 

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Flippin' Fred Hatfield, that's a name that i've not seen brought up in awhile. An old m.f.w. name right there.

I don't remember him posting that though. lol.

BMJ
 

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Isn't this the stuff in Fulvic Acid and Humic Acid formulas:confused:
 

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SHILAJIT

Cool read-now everyone whos read it will be asking where to get it- thanks for the post.
I forgot to mention in my first post the searches yielded that another supplement was supposed to be very similar and from India termed Shilajit.

http://www.jivaka.com/org/docs/paper/Talbert Paper.pdf

Sources of Shilajit are all over the web.

I have a couple of India(n) friends I know from work and have asked what it is the best source of it-directly from India or a local India(n) shop here.
 
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I used it back in '94 or '95. Atletika USA sold it. It seemed to help me recover quicker from workouts. I was only able to use it for a few weeks cause it was expensive. I also tried Retibol. That one really helped me get harder, stronger, & recover quicker, plus it seemed my appetite was better. Sure wouldn't mind trying them again.
 

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Aloha,

Heard of it, never used it, but sure sounds promising. Where and who's carrying it..

V55
 

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As Massive G said, I was about to say that this sounds very much like Shilajit. The black droppings.. in caves and mountain crevices.

Someone had posted a thread about Shilajit the other day, and I chimed in. Basically I did a TON of research on it over a year ago, because of the interesting properties it claimed to have..

I ended up finding out what it was.. It is actually the urine and feces of an animal.. I forget the name of the animal, but I think it was a flying squirrel indigenous to the area where Shilajit was found, high in the mountains.


Notice how this mumie stuff doesn't give you a clear idea of what it is.. that's why.. because it's actually just animal droppings and urine.

Dr. George Carman after retiring, went on to investigate it, traveling to the areas where it was found, asking countless suppliers who could not give him an answer on what it was.. this was his conclusion:

"My studies of the process chain shows laboratory samples are likely to be contaminated since the raw material is mixed with rock dust (to increase sales weight) and additives such as honey and apricot juice to sweeten the taste.

My raw material was collected from the rock outcrops and thin section petrology shows it it is not an exudate but merely a surface deposit. Chromatography shows it to be of waxy organic origin. I have observed and recorded the surrounding flora and fauna and have concluded the deposit is excreta mixed with urine from mammals including the Afghanistan Pika and the Giant Wooly Flying Squirrel. Since the habitat of these creatures is limited, and the distribution of various forms of salajit more widespread, I can only conclude that other mammals also contribute to the source."

Once you re-read the initial article posted by Massive G, you start to understand WHY it mentioned the diverse plants and herbs, and the animals with superior biological bodies (nutrients etc.) because if someone was to find out the truth about it, they will then rationalize and say the feces and urine of these animals are special and give special properties. (is that true or not.. I don't have an opinion one way or another) but it does explain the odd statement about the animals in the article.

To read more, you can go to Dr. George Carman's Salijt Hobby Studies blog!
http://salajitstudies.blogspot.com/ Has pictures and better explanations.

and also quite a bit of information is posted on raysehalians site by Dr. Carman in the comments section.
http://www.raysahelian.com/shilajit.html
 
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For the past several months, I've been researching the Moomiyo (Mumie)extract standardized to 25% Polyphenols. I actually plan on incorporating it as part of my PCT this go around. I'll use that in conjunction with Fenugreek (Trigonella Foenum-graecum) Extract (standardized to 50% Furostanol Saponins (Fenuside)).

I figured I'd try a couple natural options in addition to the norm to see if I can retain gains/strength. Worth a shot, right?
 

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i used the mumie (moo me yo) and suma rood. the "russion secret).
didnt see much. in no way can they be compared to gear like the ads say there are much better products out now. i used the igf33 too! still not too much!!
 

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i used the mumie (moo me yo) and suma rood. the "russion secret).
didnt see much. in no way can they be compared to gear like the ads say there are much better products out now. i used the igf33 too! still not too much!!
I'm not sure if anyone read my post above, but the product is pretty much a scam in my opinion. I wouldn't expect any benefits from shilajit or mumie. It's just urine and feces from certain animals from what I gather.
 

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Yeah I remember that sup, Never used it. I watched other guys give money away. No thanks.
 

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Moomiyo the best supplement that exists

I have been using Moomiyo for 2 years. It has done wonders for me. From giving me incredible energy wither before a workout or just when I need a boost at work. I have had a nagging shoulder and knee problem. In the first couple days I noticed a big diffrence. It gives you a sense of well being. I take it normally for 2 weeks then a week off.

I have tried many brands but these are the ones of the highest quality Moomiyo

Tycolapro.com-R.E.M.edy nightime recovery
Uviva-Moomiyo Pro

They both use premium Altai Moomiyo and have verifiyed both their sources.
You have to give it a try. You will def. feel the diffrence. It's a total supplement for your whole body.
 

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