Anabolic Round Table Debate - Thoughts on VigrousSteve's Steroid/Peptide/Fat Burner Tier List? (ft. Dr Dean & Kurt Havens)

[pistonpump]

Sounds like Liver King should be angry at Steve and not Joe Rogan lol. See I knew there was something about the guy...

 

[TrippplePPP]

10-Hour Consultation Coaching Package​

$20,000.00

Yeah this guy is nuts!

I kind of remember Derek from MPMD saying he had actors as clients that he would discuss steroids with. I think I'm in the wrong profession and need to make a YT channel.

 

[pistonpump]

I kind of remember Derek from MPMD saying he had actors as clients that he would discuss steroids with. I think I'm in the wrong profession and need to make a YT channel.

Being super successful on YT has turned into the American Dream

 

[Siggy]

I kind of remember Derek from MPMD saying he had actors as clients that he would discuss steroids with. I think I'm in the wrong profession and need to make a YT channel.

I saw Derek on an interview recently talking about his business ventures. He claims that all of his businesses combined are currently scaling to hundreds of millions and that a billion some time soon is not out of the question. While im assuming that those figures are what him and all of his investors/partners are collectively making, its still an ungodly amount if hes speaking the truth.

 

[dantes]

But even in prison..where they have the worst of the worst....there are 2 that are considered the lowest of the low..

1. Sex offenders and pedos
2. Snitches and rats

lol everyone in prison is one or the other don’t let them fool you

 

[SouthernMuscle]

lol everyone in prison is one or the other don’t let them fool you

you can’t be serious

 

[hogan87]

I kind of remember Derek from MPMD saying he had actors as clients that he would discuss steroids with. I think I'm in the wrong profession and need to make a YT channel.

$2000/hr to help wealthy "biohack" says you are a money grabbing douche. The depth of your patients wallet should not determine price, your credentials and ability should determine your prices.

There are 2-3 specials on netflix about child influences and the money their "mom-agers" make, steal from the kids. It`s crazy!

 

[specter]

lol everyone in prison is one or the other don’t let them fool you

As someone who has been to prison, yeah thats not correct at all.. not even close.

 

[madg]

As someone who has been to prison, yeah thats not correct at all.. not even close.

I like @dantes but agree with my brother @specter and @SouthernMuscle as someone that also been in BECAUSE of RATS

 

[qbkilla]

I like @dantes but agree with my brother @specter and @SouthernMuscle as someone that also been in BECAUSE of RATS

Hopefully whoever ratted on you got what they had coming. The worst part about this is the dude Steve didn't even rat on him to save himself..he did it out of pure spite over the guy asking for his $$ back. Then made a video trying to justify it saying "oh well he is lying, so I had to expose him." People now days think they have a birth right to the truth.

 

[madcap71]

Agreed. Why would anyone trust a guy who will release private information between a client and coach for likes and views? You'd never see Skip Hill, Justin Harris, Scott Stevenson or any other respectable coach do that.

Steve wasn't his coach? I'm sure he refused to coach him and then found his email years later

 

[BALDNAZI]

$2000/hr to help wealthy "biohack" says you are a money grabbing douche. The depth of your patients wallet should not determine price, your credentials and ability should determine your prices.

There are 2-3 specials on netflix about child influences and the money their "mom-agers" make, steal from the kids. It`s crazy!

I like you brother, but you love counting other people's money. If you can't figure out how to play the game and create wealth for yourself, who's to blame?

 

[specter]

I like @dantes but agree with my brother @specter and @SouthernMuscle as someone that also been in BECAUSE of RATS

Same brotha, had a guy who ratted me and his own freakin little brother out, he still got time.. he got fucked up in prison though...

 

[dantes]

I like @dantes but agree with my brother @specter and @SouthernMuscle as someone that also been in BECAUSE of RATS

I spoke to definitively. I do know guys who did time who are solid dudes but I have know more who talk the talk and then would rat first option they get or screw you over small money

 

[Thebiggestdumbass]

But even in prison..where they have the worst of the worst....there are 2 that are considered the lowest of the low..

1. Sex offenders and pedos
2. Snitches and rats

Do you want to equate yourself to the worst of the worst? I spent enough time locked up to realize the snitching rule is applied sporadically

I’m not saying what Steve did was right or snitching is the move, just making a point

 

[lmbfgd22]

Agreed. Why would anyone trust a guy who will release private information between a client and coach for likes and views? You'd never see Skip Hill, Justin Harris, Scott Stevenson or any other respectable coach do that.

This should have ended his career, but everyone wants to burn fake natties like it's the Salem witch trials. Outing anyone's private information without prior approval is BS.

I'm not a fan of LK, but you have to be a morally bankrupt person to sell someone out for internet clout.

 

[qbkilla]

This should have ended his career, but everyone wants to burn fake natties like it's the Salem witch trials. Outing anyone's private information without prior approval is BS.

I'm not a fan of LK, but you have to be a morally bankrupt person to sell someone out for internet clout.

Agree. Its absurd that a "fake natty " is considered worse than a rat by anyone. I never understood the fake natty rage...people actually care that other people deny aas use or outright lie about it? Why? If a famous woman has obvious fake tats or ass and swears they are real...why do I care? "Oh its not fair, all those kids will now think your physique is attainable with hard work and eating protein and it's all a lie, poor kids, how dare you mislead them, its my moral duty to expose you!!" Cringe AF.

 

[hogan87]

I like you brother, but you love counting other people's money. If you can't figure out how to play the game and create wealth for yourself, who's to blame?

I`m not hating on the guy for making money. Just saying the guy is not worth the money these fools pay him and his videos are not worth my time. Another self proclaimed internet guru with very little qualifications. That has NOTHING to do with my wealth creation

 

[BALDNAZI]

I`m not hating on the guy for making money. Just saying the guy is not worth the money these fools pay him and his videos are not worth my time. Another self proclaimed internet guru with very little qualifications. That has NOTHING to do with my wealth creation

I agree with you, my point is if a fool wants to part with his own money to pay for any of these guys it’s on them. And good on the “gurus” for getting paid. My overall view is, I will never hate on anyone’s hustle. There’s way to much money out there not to capitalize on it, as long as there are 2 consenting parties in the transaction game on. If they are paying for a service and these guys deliver what they want, who am i to judge? Fuck em

 

[pistonpump]

I just watched some of nyle nagata podcast with Steve on.... Dude is cringe he's bragging again about his free gear and claiming he's the first guy to bring up primo and masteron lowering e2 a few years ago.