Anabolic Round Table Debate - Thoughts on VigrousSteve's Steroid/Peptide/Fat Burner Tier List? (ft. Dr Dean & Kurt Havens)

[oldskater]

I just watched some of nyle nagata podcast with Steve on.... Dude is cringe he's bragging again about his free gear and claiming he's the first guy to bring up primo and masteron lowering e2 a few years ago.

Ive never had masteron do anything to my e2. I'm not sure I've come across many people who have.
Eq and primo act as pretty strong ais for me.

 

[stevecleves]

I find some his deep dives interesting, certainly he is quite good at finding studies when he does he deep dives.

Beyond that he gets a little tedious, his live streams are a little unwatchable...he is constantly referencing all of the things he thinks he introduced to bodybuilding, and constantly talking about how much money hes making, crypto etc. And the live stream questions are like "Steve, how long can I stay on 250mg of test per week?"

The problem I have with a lot of these guys is that a lot of what they are talking about is like 1% importance stuff. And they tend to make them seem way way more important than they really are.
"Here's a 45 minute video on why Enanthate is Better than Cypionate."

 

[Siggy]

I just watched some of nyle nagata podcast with Steve on.... Dude is cringe he's bragging again about his free gear and claiming he's the first guy to bring up primo and masteron lowering e2 a few years ago.

Is he also still going on about all anavar and primo being fake? I swear the dude must sell his own gear with how hard he was repping that BS a couple of years ago.

 

[EFShadow]

Is he also still going on about all anavar and primo being fake? I swear the dude must sell his own gear with how hard he was repping that BS a couple of years ago.

He gets a cut from his “source list” one would assume.

 

[Big Dave Smith]

Is he also still going on about all anavar and primo being fake? I swear the dude must sell his own gear with how hard he was repping that BS a couple of years ago.

We’re a bit spoiled on the board, as most of our sponsors have to sell quality products or they’re outed.

I’ve had maybe 25-30 friends give me samples of their stuff over the last 4 years. 80-90% were fake. It was almost comical.

In the same time period, I’ve tested most of the stuff from sponsors here. The one time I had an issue, it was corrected.

 

[hawkmoon]

He gets a cut from his “source list” one would assume.

Wasn't he also claiming it was easy to make 15-30k a month with peptide sponsors and how Nyle should jump on?
To Nyle's credit he laughed it off.

 

[stevecleves]

He gets a cut from his “source list” one would assume.

Wasn't he also claiming it was easy to make 15-30k a month with peptide sponsors and how Nyle should jump on?
To Nyle's credit he laughed it off.

I asked in one of his livestreams why he was pointing his followers to peptide websites when they can order directly from China at 1/10th of the price. He kept deleting my comment....

 

[P30LEM]

He gets a cut from his “source list” one would assume.

There's a lot of guys that do this. For example there's an entire crew of YouTube personalities that make videos together who make money off of promoting serostim as being some sort of "superior" GH since it mainly comes through one supply.