Anabolic Steroids are Supposedly a Gateway to Drug Abuse in Teens

[need4tren]

I mean teens shouldn’t be using anabolic steroids in the first place. So if there dabbling in that they probably already dabbled in cocaine mdma ect.

How can teens even afford a cycle and blow? Or even blow?

 

[concreter]

Got me Off the Rec Drugs!...For the most part"
I was drinking mostly, some Pot daily as well and Yayo here and there on weekends.
Seen a Pic of myself at 40...Weighing 202pds and new I was doing God an injustice for the Genetics he gave me!
10 yrs strong at 250+, only drink occasionally..(Comparatively")
But think more about Diet, Exercise and Health than Ever!

 

[nothuman]

I can sort of see it. Guy starts doing steroids, get jacked and confident. Wants to take advantage of looking good so he parties more hoping to get laid by beautiful women, many of whom do coke.

 

[alfresco]

just keeping it real . . .

It is hypocritical NOT to classify AAS (perhaps even insulin and GH
usage) as recreational drug usage. It is and they (AAS) are both
metaphorically and technically classified as recreational drugs.

And people who use them with disregard (short or long term) for
their mental and physical health are truly addicts. They cycle on
and off them to ultimately change how they feel, just like an
alcoholic goes on, and falls off, the wagon.

And then you have the ones who are averse to taking doctor
prescribed medication for mental health all the while
voluntarily taking drugs that do in-fact effect brain chemistry.
Sorry peeps . . . you can’t have it both ways

Do what you want to and with your body . . . seriously, I could
care less. Just don’t say you don’t use recreational or
neuropsychiatric drugs because you do. (AAS usage is ranked in
the top 20 for dependence, physical harm, and social harm.)

 

[johnjuanb1]

WARNING: Tren is a gateway drug leading to chronic masterbation and midget porn.

 

[gungalunga]

WARNING: Tren is a gateway drug leading to chronic masterbation and midget porn.

Getting off gear has not made you any less crazy JJ......LOL!

 

[aphextwin]

I have been asked by women if I use steroids but never cocaine

 

[LK3]

It is hypocritical NOT to classify AAS (perhaps even insulin and GH
usage) as recreational drug usage. It is and they (AAS) are both
metaphorically and technically classified as recreational drugs.

And people who use them with disregard (short or long term) for
their mental and physical health are truly addicts. They cycle on
and off them to ultimately change how they feel, just like an
alcoholic goes on, and falls off, the wagon.

And then you have the ones who are averse to taking doctor
prescribed medication for mental health all the while
voluntarily taking drugs that do in-fact effect brain chemistry.
Sorry peeps . . . you can’t have it both ways

Do what you want to and with your body . . . seriously, I could
care less. Just don’t say you don’t use recreational or
neuropsychiatric drugs because you do. (AAS usage is ranked in
the top 20 for dependence, physical harm, and social harm.)

lol
brotha.....
aas are the foundation for the professional drug addict! lol:headbang::headbang:

now i make jokes because to some degree its sort of ironic and funny but it is also true!

we as society have such a hang up about this word... "dr_gs" the use abuse and who gets to define each one.

i really dont understand the hang up or the hypocrisy of it all as all that is important to us as humans in life boils down to all the same shit... changes in neurochemistry which effect our mood. this comes either from outside stimuli aka life or.... Dr_gs! lol

so if we are essentially doing the same thing why do we care and or judge by what methods others chose to expereince this existance?

really it is in all of our best interest to explore and live this life to its fullest with love and respect for those we share all this with. if you are suffering in some way i am also suffering. at its best pm is a comunity that helps one another with this suffering and we are all drug users and abusers.

that suffering in this case could be the simple feeling of inadiquicy with ones self, a desire to be better, a desire to expereicne more that this life has to offer. that is probably the initial motivation that brought us all here as individuals.

these things are so common yet so taboo
so sad...
good thing and no wonderr we have so much aas and co.c_!!

personally i am proud of the professional drug addict title, i take my recreational activities quite seriously thank you very much! lol

 

[LK3]

I have been asked by women if I use steroids but never cocaine

stop haning out with "good girls" lol

 

[Slowmoe]

Everything can be a gateway, especially if you tell your kids how bad drugs are and they experience them for themselves and realize they aren’t bad at all (pot for instance). At that point your creditability goes out the door

 

[Herraisland]

Lol im not sure with that.. but i can related. Coming of heavy cocaine and crack abuse.. up to 10gr a day abuse

 

[buck]

I am guessing that beer is a gateway drug to most everything.

 

[maldorf]

Everything can be a gateway, especially if you tell your kids how bad drugs are and they experience them for themselves and realize they aren’t bad at all (pot for instance). At that point your creditability goes out the door

You don't have to lie to them about how they make you feel, but you should tell them the truth about what can go wrong and how they can hurt you. I agree, that it is stupid to lie to your kids. I have always given it to my girls straight. It makes me nervous because I end up telling them don't do what your father did. Look how I ended up.

 

[1bigmofo]

It is hypocritical NOT to classify AAS (perhaps even insulin and GH
usage) as recreational drug usage. It is and they (AAS) are both
metaphorically and technically classified as recreational drugs.

And people who use them with disregard (short or long term) for
their mental and physical health are truly addicts. They cycle on
and off them to ultimately change how they feel, just like an
alcoholic goes on, and falls off, the wagon.

And then you have the ones who are averse to taking doctor
prescribed medication for mental health all the while
voluntarily taking drugs that do in-fact effect brain chemistry.
Sorry peeps . . . you can’t have it both ways

Do what you want to and with your body . . . seriously, I could
care less. Just don’t say you don’t use recreational or
neuropsychiatric drugs because you do. (AAS usage is ranked in
the top 20 for dependence, physical harm,u and social harm.)

AAS are not psychoavtive, meaning they do not change brain funtion. Since they are not psychoactive they do not qualify or meet the standard definition of a recreational drug. And what the heck is a nueropsychiatric drug? Ur making up words here. You have no clue what your talking about. Sorry bro...ur clearly just trying to sound more intelligent, but your not.

 

[Dog-Slime]

AAS are not psychoavtive, meaning they do not change brain funtion. Since they are not psychoactive they do not qualify or meet the standard definition of a recreational drug. And what the heck is a nueropsychiatric drug? Ur making up words here. You have no clue what your talking about. Sorry bro...ur clearly just trying to sound more intelligent, but your not.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4549565/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3633688/

https://www.eridanushealth.com/neuropsychiatric-medications

:devil:smi

 

[1bigmofo]

bro...those “abstracts” are so not relative to what Alfresco is stating. Do not try to muddy the water here. And to pull a website that sells psyc. meds with the title of “nueropsychiatric meds” is again misleading. I give u an “A” for effort though.

 

[johnjuanb1]

Getting off gear has not made you any less crazy JJ......LOL!

I’m back on.

 

[Dog-Slime]

bro...those “abstracts” are so not relative to what Alfresco is stating. Do not try to muddy the water here. And to pull a website that sells psyc. meds with the title of “nueropsychiatric meds” is again misleading. I give u an “A” for effort though.

Misleading? You must hate to admit that YOU WERE WRONG. You said that was a made up thing... And didn't post those abstracts to relate to what alfresco said but they DAMN SURE relate to what YOU said... They most CERTAINLY DO change brain function as those studies PROVE that. That site sells neuropsychiatric med which YOU said was a word he made up. So quit insulting good bro's and accept your ignorance and move along as you seem to be the one who doesn't know what he was talking about NOT Alfresco... Now they don't get you high necessarily which seems to be what you MEANT but not what you SAID...

 

[LK3]

AAS are not psychoavtive, meaning they do not change brain funtion. Since they are not psychoactive they do not qualify or meet the standard definition of a recreational drug. And what the heck is a nueropsychiatric drug? Ur making up words here. You have no clue what your talking about. Sorry bro...ur clearly just trying to sound more intelligent, but your not.

what?????


since when dont aas alter brain chemistry??????

aas for sure have no psycadelic properties. lol
they do nor block neurotransmitters but they sure can play with them.

really you are gona sit here and say the test, estro etc have no effect on mood? lol

dopamine????
i have been super fucked since birth essentially, and if im honest even i have to wonder how much my drug use ( only speaking of aas in this case ) has impacted and or effected my behavior to a degree that it falls into the very serious catagory of mental illness.

if i am 100% honest with myself i have to take a very hard look at this and there is waaaaaay more then a casual corrolation. 100% i am not alone on this board in many of these issues.

aas user are by far the most obsessive drug users/abusers too. they also obsessively deny this to themselves and others. which is exactly the point alfresco is making. :lightbulb:

 

[1bigmofo]

what?????


since when dont aas alter brain chemistry??????

aas for sure have no psycadelic properties. lol
they do nor block neurotransmitters but they sure can play with them.

really you are gona sit here and say the test, estro etc have no effect on mood? lol

dopamine????
i have been super fucked since birth essentially, and if im honest even i have to wonder how much my drug use ( only speaking of aas in this case ) has impacted and or effected my behavior to a degree that it falls into the very serious catagory of mental illness.

if i am 100% honest with myself i have to take a very hard look at this and there is waaaaaay more then a casual corrolation. 100% i am not alone on this board in many of these issues.

aas user are by far the most obsessive drug users/abusers too. they also obsessively deny this to themselves and others. which is exactly the point alfresco is making. :lightbulb:

LK..i agree with u that aas users can be obsessive and at times abusers for sure. But what I'm referring to is alfresco stating that aas are recreational drugs. They are not. They are not classified as recreational becuz they are not psychoactive. Meaning they do not alter mood or brain chemistry solely for recreational purposes. alcohol, stimulants, depressants, psychedelics do. aas do not. Long term they may play a role in dopamine, norepinephrine, adrenal etc. But alfresco is stating that they are being used recreationally and aas do not meet the criteria as recreational drugs. Can't remember the last time I went to hang out with the bro's and I had a few cc's of test while attending a concert, bon fire etc. It's irresponsible to spread this type of label...that aas users are using recreational drugs. I'm honestly surprised that more bro's here are not offended by that statement, especially the bro's like myself who are responsible, safe, educated on aas, and utilize them for performance enhancement in a safe and responsible manner. Not all do, I know that, but I'm not going to sit here and let alfresco spread spew his rhetoric and false information about a lifestyle that is so close to my heart.