just so people know. this has absolutly nothing to do with animal. the pill that caused phils problem came from someone else, it is a compound similar to something that animal does work with, but he never worked with the compound in question.
also the compound in question in no way could cause the effect that was experianced. there must have been some further issue or contamination that is unknown at this time.
i have worked with phil in the past to fill gaps from the supplier in question, i have used many of his products and never had a problem. what happened is terrible no way around it. but also please keep in mind that this is a risk that anyone taking suppliements or any compound in an unknown non chemical essyed fassion takes. i experiment with all kinds of compounds which in reality is very risky behavior. i have worked hard to uducate myslef and minize any risk but it is always a potential. please think about that next time you use something from a non comercial source.
that said i am not in favor of our current systems of distribution for suppliements or other compounds. i think that the only way to ensure quality through cgms testing.
i would love to see an open ungregulated market where educated consumers could freeley purchase any substance they like provided it is clearly labeled with the results of the cgms testing, whatever they may be.
really this is the solution for all of our more troublesome markets, suppliements, food products various plant compounds currently listed as drugs.
this would allow for a truely free market, produces could seel whatever they like, and would create other indusrty/jobslike more cgms facitlities and short term finanicing for salable comodities.
the educated consumer is the key and what we are desperatly laking. ( sorry for my little rant )
anyway, i think phil talked to animal because out of everyone i can think of he is the expert on this stuff. i am a member of his site which is very small and private. there a only a handfull of people there but all very knowlagable advanced guys.
we have been focusing on antioxidents and how they relate to our interest which is where the whole idea of res and curc and all that came from. i believe the pill in question was a modified version of curcumin which is why animal was looked to for advice.
animal is very upset about this matter because he was threatened by the person that gave phil what he took. he has no interest in selling anything to anyone and wants to be left out of the matter as he had nothing to do with it to begin with.
i hope this answers questions and clears things up.