another boner for IGF DES thread

[plang]

Now that thats settled....These peptides should be stored in solutions at appropriate PH levels; that is why IGF peptides are usually reconned w/ AA. Now, the PH of AA is a little too acidic to be pinning IM, it will irritate tissue at the very least, if not injure it. The idea behind drawing in BA after pulling IGF is to minimize this effect and raise the PH a bit just prior to pinning. Some do recon w/ straight BA, this will increase degradation rate, yes, but, for example if using IGF kits where each vial is 100mcg, then its fine; You'll be using that vial within a day or two and degradation isn't an issue then.
I think it best to pin Des about an hour PWO. Pwo is when the igf receptors in the muscle tissue trained will be primed and receptive. Waiting an hour will allow endo MGF to begin differentiation(the igf will shut this down). Then pinning your Des hoping it will find the receptors you want it to find and stimulate proliferation; Des, has zero binding affinity to all IGFBB, but is shorter lived than Lr3(a strong positive in my book).

All this makes sense....but even when diluting with BW prior to injection I still felt "achy" like test flu all the time....my body must just be a pussy when it comes to acetic acid

 

[juiced13]

Good info, am fixing to grab a few to try. Have done sev of lr1's wanting to see just how they stack up.

 

[wtfmansloth]

hey guys sorry if this is a bit off topic but what are your opinions on DES w/ ghrp/cjc? i think i read somewhere on here that it interferes w/ DES so DES should be shot first w/ cjc/ghrp shot 20-30 minutes later. ive read through dat's thread and he suggests cjc/ghrp immediately PWO followed 20 minutes later with dextrose/leucine and 10 mins later with protein.

just want to hear some opinions on this.

 

[Dens228]

Whether or not they interfere is beyond my knowledge level but I'll take what those in the know say as accurate.

I take my DES immediately prior to working out, I take the CJC/GHRP right after. That is between 45 and 60 minutes apart.

I've tried them in reverse and results seemed the same.

hey guys sorry if this is a bit off topic but what are your opinions on DES w/ ghrp/cjc? i think i read somewhere on here that it interferes w/ DES so DES should be shot first w/ cjc/ghrp shot 20-30 minutes later. ive read through dat's thread and he suggests cjc/ghrp immediately PWO followed 20 minutes later with dextrose/leucine and 10 mins later with protein.

just want to hear some opinions on this.

 

[minister]

well,,

shot mine lastnight, just to see what it does to a cold body (non post training i mean)

after playing with my doggie, and i was in the bathroom laughing cuz of the veins and pump that was just hard to believe it comes on so quick nothing like lr3

lr3 i had to workout or eat something and get full but this is just too fun not to abuse lol

anyways, it was from precision pep,,,very cool, i will be using DES for awhile, i mean come on who does not like veins/pumps??? we can all relate to what arnold said in pumpin iron, so i wanna be 24/7 in that feel/mode/look

Hey brother, I know you read that article on the other IGF-DES thread about this product attaching to the receptors and stimulating gut growth, just wanted to know what you think about it and if you are feeling that effect. God bless you. Minister.