Anxiety/Panic attacks and Bodybuilding...

[STEVO 47]

it happens to me at least twice a week these days... very unpleasant indeed.

Good God, twice a week??? I've only had one four years ago and I
still can't forget it !

 

[neverfail]

AAS act as enforcers of all these psychosomatic disorders. In that way they may actually lead you to dealing with them so it CAN turn out well. Obviously that would not be a reason to start using them just to be clear

Interesting thought. I suppose if a condition is eventually going to manifest, one could have the openion that it may be easier to make adjustments on said condition if it were AAS induced opposed to alcohol, coke, E ect..... induced.

 

[taslajrisi]

good thread

I have had really bad anxiety as of late. I also wake up with the panic attacks, gasping for air with my heart pounding against my rib cage like a prisoner hell bent on escape. When this happens I use either clonezapam(klonopin) or alprazolam(xanax) and i come right down. Half a tab is usually more than enough for me to get back to sleep

this interests me a lot. that klonopin is incredible like shutting down your brain. I wonder if over active adrenals are the cause sometimes and could Humanofort help in this regard? I just get frustrated as to if there is a physical reason for the panic like a supplement or drug or if it is totally starting in the mind/thoughts. It sucks having anxiety.

Picamilon is a combo of GABA and Niacin and its natural. Its a supplement in US but a prescription in Russia. This is really good to calm you down if you have anxiety and its natural and lowers BP. Google it.....

 

[taslajrisi]

yes

I know some people that had cardiomyopathy, ejection fraction of like 30%, and their ekg and halter monitor both tested out normal. It wasnt until they performed and ultrasound of the hear that they discovered the wall motion abnormalities of the heart and size problem. To me the ultrasound is the only sure fire way to know. The heart can have normal electrical activity but still have disease.

You know a lot more about these cardio issues than me forthgen (thanks). Thats what sucks about the heart, you can have a lot of "normal" tests and still be screwed. I would like to do the ultrasound also to be sure.

 

[6packguy]

this interests me a lot. that klonopin is incredible like shutting down your brain. I wonder if over active adrenals are the cause sometimes and could Humanofort help in this regard? I just get frustrated as to if there is a physical reason for the panic like a supplement or drug or if it is totally starting in the mind/thoughts. It sucks having anxiety.

Picamilon is a combo of GABA and Niacin and its natural. Its a supplement in US but a prescription in Russia. This is really good to calm you down if you have anxiety and its natural and lowers BP. Google it.....

Have tried GABA products in the past with little to no success. GABA is the same neurotransmitter klonopin and xanax increase in the brai to cause relaxiation. They psychiatrist I was seeing told me the reason alot of GABA products don't work as well is they have trouble crossing the blood brain barrier. I'm not sure if this is true but it's diffenetly possible

 

[hypochondriac]

Ever since getting back on gear after 18 years everything was good till I took Clen. I had my first attack with that stuff and now I keep getting them... that was a couple of years ago. Like others I had one bad attack that put me in the ER... went to a heart specialist and the works done on me and NOTHING. I was in perfect health... I just keep getting the attacks... the more gear I'm on the more attacks I get. I was taking 25mg of zoloft a day which was working good. Then I started my tren cycle, first one, and now I'm up to 50mg of zoloft to fight off the attacks. I have to take, I forget the name, but it's like a 12 hour xanax... now before I train or I'll start having fits in the gym. As long as I can control it I'm good to go with the tren.

I remember the first hot day of summer this year... I had just done a heavy last set of squats... I freaked and went into a black out. Another trip to the ER. At that time the doc said I was dehydrated... so I make sure to keep drinking a lot of water. I was on a 12 week drol cycle at that time.

At this point it all about finding your limits on what you can do just before reaching that breaking point. I always carry an emergency pill carrier that has everything in it to pull me out of an attack. Now, when I hit the heavy squats I have someone there ready to give me a xanax if I start flippin.

I've been taking gear for a long time... it's just wierd to see soooo many people having problems like this now. Has it always been this way? If it has I can except the fact that it's a common side of gear. If these attacks are something fairly new to everyone then I would have to think it's the quality of the gear. 18 years ago I knew of no one that got attacks including me.

 

[taslajrisi]

anxiety

I think there are people that are just prone to anxiety/depression more than others. I got depressed prior to gear and struggle with it now even though i am not on cycle. I think an optimal test level helps in this regard (800-1200 range). I think as we age, it can get harder to deal with due to the adrenals glands getting worn out. Humanofort seems to help with stress hormones. I have never done tren and stay away from stimulants. Millions suffer from anxiety etc. and most don't do gear. My dad never gets freaked out about anything ever but stress manifests itself in him in other ways than panic attacks or depression. My mom is classic worry wart (like me) I would guess that strong androgens would increase the chance of panic/anxiety in those prone to it to begin with.

 

[ryjenn]

Try a bèta-blocker, works like a charm!

amen...i had severe anxiety attacks,would just wipe me out..tried everything else,,doc gave me metropolol...have been good since,,dont even take the valium i have un less its out of control....deca seemed to aggrevate it for me also for some reason...eq im good with...

 

[Skinny Guns]

The first time I used HGH it gave me panic attacks. I had to start at a lower dose and tapper up. I tried some tbol the other day, gave me severe panic attacks would never try that again. I always keep sublingual ativan around for these things.

 

[taslajrisi]

6pack

Have tried GABA products in the past with little to no success. GABA is the same neurotransmitter klonopin and xanax increase in the brai to cause relaxiation. They psychiatrist I was seeing told me the reason alot of GABA products don't work as well is they have trouble crossing the blood brain barrier. I'm not sure if this is true but it's diffenetly possible

I use this and its great, lowers BP also.

Pikamilon

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