Anybody ever get better gains on lower dose cycles?

[bigraf]

Bump^

 

[NPCS FINEST]

True, just because it says 250mg per ml or whatever doesn't mean its dosed correct, you could only be getting 100 out of it who knows 4 sure.

I dont think thats what he was talking about??

 

[abolish the weak]

so what is the difference when it comes to dieting and gear then? Everybody says that its all diet but is it really? If your eating below maintenance is 3 grams of gear going to do much more than 1 gram of gear? Or are we taking into account the high dosages of GH which are allowing guys to eat above maintenance level or diet down while still utilizing 3 and 4 grams of juice/wk? Anybody, Phil?

 

[Iceman1800]

400mg/week of cyp works wonders for me.

 

[hawkmoon]

I got bigger faster 15 years ago on 250mg/wk of durateston and 50mg/day Hemogenin than I did last year on 500-750 Testoviron Depot, 400mg EQ, and 30mg Dbol.
I was also eating far less protein back then....other than that the only difference was that I used no anti-Es back then.

...but I was 15 years younger.

 

[machola]

YOU WILL ALYAWS GET BETTER GAINS WITH HIGHER DOSAGES.

amen... ask yourself, do you ever get more drunk from drinking less alcohol? same thing. more=more

 

[whiteknucks]

for me, more gear equals more gains. i can only take so much before the sides outweigh everything though. so i just back it off a notch and pray it doesnt kill you!....blood test every 4-6 months and blood pressure daily at different times of the day will help.

i wonder what the largest dose of test has ever been? i cant go over 1.5 g

i do think low doses will help u keep pretty much all of your gains though, at least it works for me instead of the dreaded pct.

 

[preist943]

more gear will always give more gains yes but is it needed ? how big is big? I think to many people have the idea of pros and thats what they look to as how big they want to be ;when the fact is 99% of people could take 20g of test and 500mg of a-50 a day and still never look like a pro .

I have always thought if diet and training is 100% nailed (which is a rare case even in people who think they have it down) you shouldnt need more on average then 600-750mg of whatever . yes you will top out someplace but the higher you go the gains cant be kept long term without staying on high dose .

why shoot for gains that you cant keep and risk all the sides of high dose ,long and short term . people who do this imo are seeking a dreamland that will never be found ;unless your that 1%

but in contrast to lighter dose all you seem to loose when going off is water weight because you havent over blown what you can nutritionaly support without a lot of anabolics .

 

[Thor]

LOL

amen... ask yourself, do you ever get more drunk from drinking less alcohol? same thing. more=more

I love this place!

 

[abolish the weak]

more gear will always give more gains yes but is it needed ? how big is big? I think to many people have the idea of pros and thats what they look to as how big they want to be ;when the fact is 99% of people could take 20g of test and 500mg of a-50 a day and still never look like a pro .

I have always thought if diet and training is 100% nailed (which is a rare case even in people who think they have it down) you shouldnt need more on average then 600-750mg of whatever . yes you will top out someplace but the higher you go the gains cant be kept long term without staying on high dose .

why shoot for gains that you cant keep and risk all the sides of high dose ,long and short term . people who do this imo are seeking a dreamland that will never be found ;unless your that 1%

but in contrast to lighter dose all you seem to loose when going off is water weight because you havent over blown what you can nutritionaly support without a lot of anabolics .

great fucking point right there bro. This has turned into a really good thread.

One thing I've def noticed about cycling low-moderate doses, if u switch off to primo at 4-500mg/wk after stopping your other shit, you keep almost everything. I've been off cycle now for like 8 wks (off everything) and I haven't lost shit. even if u can only afford 1-2 bottles I believe by using it at the end it'll help u hold gains and no test crash. I did not crash for shit, love the stuff!!