Anyone can help me here?

[Big A]

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/female-forum/131020-gluten-free-diet-female-hormones.html

 

[tenny]

how old is she???

 

[LK3]

its been a while since I have worked on this area so some of my terminology is a lil off but....

I think essentially what is going on is gluten fucks with hormones, particularly for women, in theory modern diet, high processed carbs and wheat products leads to increase in estrogens.

when you stop adding the stuff that is fucking with the hormones the natural hormones patterns start to come back. the thing is they are all fucked up from the years of eating shit that fucks with the hormones.

lots of things impact our natty production of hormones.

previous bc use will also come into play.

I think best thing that can be done is stick with the changes and limit cheat meals. that isn't to say it will totally fix the problem.

womens hormones can be very complicated and really need to be dealt with case by case, lots of small things can have an impact and often ppl want instant but that's not really possible with this as its a monthly cycle. lol

I would expect 10-20 months of doing the exact same thing to get some sorta stability.

work on diet n sups to be sure the basics are covered, fine tune that as you go n try to be very patient. remind her of that too.

 

[K1]

Posted what my wife told me real quick...She's sleeping so didn't want to get too into it with her for fear of facing those "hormone changes"

Will talk with her more once she's up and showed

 

[blackjack]

I've lived this exact story with my wife. Literally everything from benefits to problems when she moved to Gluten free 100%. All the symptoms you mention and that are in that forum were present daily for about 6 months. It has been a little over 2 years now and they aren't there at all.

To your question as far as what causes it, we saw 3 different specialists over the course of 3 years and the "cause" was variable depending on the dr. The best explanation I got that real world results lined up with was "Our bodies are adaptable beings. Over time the body can adapt to almost anything, key word time. Also, some changes can be chain-like in effect- producing a desirable result, while at the time time creating hormonal upheaval. But with time the body will regulate". Made logical sense with my own personal experience with the body, so we ran with it.

I will say however, the symptoms slowly waned to the point now where now 2 years later she actually has re-introduced gluten sparingly without the negative effects. The timeline you explained though with your wife sounds about right depending on how many "months". But we saw her cycle begin to re-normalize after about a ~year.

Good luck and hopefully you don't waste as much money as I did to learn very little.

 

[Big A]

how old is she???

36. Definetely no pre-menopausal issues.

 

[Big A]

its been a while since I have worked on this area so some of my terminology is a lil off but....

I think essentially what is going on is gluten fucks with hormones, particularly for women, in theory modern diet, high processed carbs and wheat products leads to increase in estrogens.

when you stop adding the stuff that is fucking with the hormones the natural hormones patterns start to come back. the thing is they are all fucked up from the years of eating shit that fucks with the hormones.

lots of things impact our natty production of hormones.

previous bc use will also come into play.

I think best thing that can be done is stick with the changes and limit cheat meals. that isn't to say it will totally fix the problem.

womens hormones can be very complicated and really need to be dealt with case by case, lots of small things can have an impact and often ppl want instant but that's not really possible with this as its a monthly cycle. lol

I would expect 10-20 months of doing the exact same thing to get some sorta stability.

work on diet n sups to be sure the basics are covered, fine tune that as you go n try to be very patient. remind her of that too.

Posted what my wife told me real quick...She's sleeping so didn't want to get too into it with her for fear of facing those "hormone changes"

Will talk with her more once she's up and showed

I've lived this exact story with my wife. Literally everything from benefits to problems when she moved to Gluten free 100%. All the symptoms you mention and that are in that forum were present daily for about 6 months. It has been a little over 2 years now and they aren't there at all.

To your question as far as what causes it, we saw 3 different specialists over the course of 3 years and the "cause" was variable depending on the dr. The best explanation I got that real world results lined up with was "Our bodies are adaptable beings. Over time the body can adapt to almost anything, key word time. Also, some changes can be chain-like in effect- producing a desirable result, while at the time time creating hormonal upheaval. But with time the body will regulate". Made logical sense with my own personal experience with the body, so we ran with it.

I will say however, the symptoms slowly waned to the point now where now 2 years later she actually has re-introduced gluten sparingly without the negative effects. The timeline you explained though with your wife sounds about right depending on how many "months". But we saw her cycle begin to re-normalize after about a ~year.

Good luck and hopefully you don't waste as much money as I did to learn very little.

Thank you

 

[emeric delczeg]

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/female-forum/131020-gluten-free-diet-female-hormones.html

Check your PM.

 

[Stewie]

By description, the symptoms sound more like PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) or late development of endometriosis. Rather than food intoleranc(s)-sensitivity. Given that she's been gluten free for months now, would lead me to believe there's no influence her prolactin levels via gluten exorphins. Or so I would suspect.

Has she had any imaging done on her ovaries or uterus-pelvic area?

Which hormones in specific has she had pulled? As well, what time of the month was her hormones pulled in relationship to her menstral cycle?

 

[muscle96ss]

I would look into getting a 24-hour urine hormone panel done. What that entails is collecting urine over a 24 hour period of time and is done usually around days 20-22 of the cycle of pre-menopausal women. The 24-hour urine is really the gold standard and will show the hormones as well as some of the metabolites which is more useful and more accurate than blood tests.

This test will enable you to see where she is at currently from a hormone standpoint and can help to explain some of the symptoms she is experiencing. You can then either choose to rectify with bioidentical hormone treatment or wait and redo the labs down the road to see if the body starts to normalize as others have stated.

Meridian Valley Labs out of Washington state is one of the most reputable labs out here providing that service. They even give the ordering physician a free hour consultation to explain the results, so that they can advise the patients correctly. I don't know if they have any affiliates in Australia, but you can contact them and ask them.

 

[LK3]

By description, the symptoms sound more like PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) or late development of endometriosis. Rather than food intoleranc(s)-sensitivity. Given that she's been gluten free for months now, would lead me to believe there's no influence her prolactin levels via gluten exorphins. Or so I would suspect.

Has she had any imaging done on her ovaries or uterus-pelvic area?

Which hormones in specific has she had pulled? As well, what time of the month was her hormones pulled in relationship to her menstral cycle?

well, that is the most common issue of that kind and it can be helped by changing of the diet.

I had a gf with this, which is why I knew the above... I forget exactly what we did, it did help though as she had surgery on 2 previous occasions before making changes.

found it took months away form gluten for things to even out, when she did have it, she regretted it after.

 

[Stewie]

well, that is the most common issue of that kind and it can be helped by changing of the diet.

I had a gf with this, which is why I knew the above... I forget exactly what we did, it did help though as she had surgery on 2 previous occasions before making changes.

found it took months away form gluten for things to even out, when she did have it, she regretted it after.

NAC works wonders for endometriosis related pains. I've suggested the use of NAC, ALA and iodine to, two females that opted out of Laparoscopic endometriosis surgery.

There's a few clinical trials and research that have been done using NAC for endometriosis, with a good success rate.

Edit:

A Promise in the Treatment of Endometriosis: An Observational Cohort Study on Ovarian Endometrioma Reduction by N-Acetylcysteine

The combination of N-acetyl cysteine, alpha-lipoic acid, and bromelain shows high anti-inflammatory properties in novel in vivo and in vitro models... - PubMed - NCBI

 

[LK3]

NAC works wonders for endometriosis related pains. I've suggested the use of NAC, ALA and iodine to, two females that opted out of Laparoscopic endometriosis surgery.

There's a few clinical trials and research that have been done using NAC for endometriosis, with a good success rate.

Edit:

A Promise in the Treatment of Endometriosis: An Observational Cohort Study on Ovarian Endometrioma Reduction by N-Acetylcysteine

The combination of N-acetyl cysteine, alpha-lipoic acid, and bromelain shows high anti-inflammatory properties in novel in vivo and in vitro models... - PubMed - NCBI

yup, used that as well as glut...

there were a few more things too.

gluten free helped a lot but there is one big thing im forgetting. lol