Anyone figure out how to regain appetite after a long bulk?

[Solo_]

Been bulking about 12 weeks, with my calories slowly increasing and now getting pretty high. By now I need at least 6k cals on work out days to keep growing. I'm already eating pretty dirty and using a lot of whey to get the cals in as easy as possible. Lately I've been getting pretty bad nausea even just thinking about food.

Have any of you guys experienced this and figured out how to get your appetite back? I have ghrp 6 but I would rather figure out the root of the problem...

 

[jp2007]

Dirty food will make you more full than clean food.. It may help get the calories in with less, but it will certainly make it harder to eat more.

Have you gotten bloodwork done, is your body stressed?

What is your typical diet like currently?

Supplements that have been known to help appetite are Inj b-12 and ghrp-6.. Like you said though, try finding the root problem

Maybe it's time to diet for 4-6 weeks?

 

[CDJack]

I think it just varies person to person. Some people just dont have problems with their appetite. I could eat ungodly amounts of food as long as I enjoy what I am eating. If you are bulking, i don't see how that's a problem. Me personally, I have to hold myself back and limit my calories when bulking, otherwise I go overboard and eat too much.

 

[VOXpol]

If you're growing, your appetite should be increasing. Clean up your diet, and don't eat if you're not hungry. Give it about a week and you'll feel much better. You'll drop some water most likely, so don't freak out when the # on the scale goes down a bit. It doesn't mean you're losing muscle

 

[Big Danny]

The two mentioned above:

synthergine - liver protector
synthelamin - b12,
one complementing the other.

 

[Solo_]

Dirty food will make you more full than clean food.. It may help get the calories in with less, but it will certainly make it harder to eat more.

Have you gotten bloodwork done, is your body stressed?

What is your typical diet like currently?

Supplements that have been known to help appetite are Inj b-12 and ghrp-6.. Like you said though, try finding the root problem

Maybe it's time to diet for 4-6 weeks?

Yep. Got all my bloodwork done a couple weeks ago, doctor didn't see anything alarming.

If you're growing, your appetite should be increasing. Clean up your diet, and don't eat if you're not hungry. Give it about a week and you'll feel much better. You'll drop some water most likely, so don't freak out when the # on the scale goes down a bit. It doesn't mean you're losing muscle

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I took two days off eating and feel much better today. I don't pay too much attn to the scale. My appetite had been increasing but recently came to a standstill. Also, doing 15 min fasted morning cardio, thinking about increasing it.

 

[ritchie]

I'd switch gear for a week as in a lower, much lower cal diet.

 

[Marky Boy]

Peptides can definately increase appetite

look into them

 

[fastlife]

What does your diet look like?

 

[Mike Arnold]

There could be a few reasons why your appetite is in the shitter on a bulk. First and foremost is because you're eating a lot...more than your digestive system wants you to be eating. Remember, eating for BB'ing is NOT a natural pusuit and causes stress to the entire digestive tract. The body fights back by deccreasing appetite.

Aside fom the volume of food itself, appetite will become suppressed if your digestive tract is not eliminating waste efficeintly, which happens FREQUENTLY to MANY BB'rs following a typical BB'ing diet.

Oral AAS use could be a factor, although al oral's affect on appetite will vary from person to person. Some guys experience tremendous suppression from certain orals, while other guys don't seem to be bothered by the same drugs.

There are several things you can to to help regain your appetite, such as:




1.) Give your body a few days break from the high calorie intake and overall volume of food. Eat about 1/3 less than you are currently eating for about 3-4 days. You will not lose any real muscle tissue, especially if using steroids. You will flatten out a bit (fullness will return as soon as you start eating more again), but that will primarily be due to lost glyocgen and overall water retention.

2.) During that 3-4 days break, eat only foods which sound appealing to you; foods you actually want to eat, but make sure your eat a large amount of both soluble and insoluble fiber (for reasons I will explain in a minute). It doesn't matter of you cut down your protein or deviate from your current macro ratos. As long as you are eating about 2/3rd's of your norml amount of cals and consuming at least a some protein, you will maintain your muscle tissue just fine over such a brief period of time.

3.) Clean out your digestve tract. Preferably, a colonic is ideal, but since some guys are not comfortable with seeing a specialist, you can also use a combination of laxatives, which will work much better than using one type alone, when it comes to cleaning out the digestive tract and eliminating the resultant waste. Ideally, use a combination of herbal, stimulant based laxatives...combined with an osmotic laxative, will work very well. Fiber is also considered a class of laxarives, but since your diet will be fairly high in fiber over this 3-4 days period already, there is no need to add additional fiber.

As an example ofhow to implement these laxatives, you can take a single, large dose of a stimulant based laxtive first thing in the morning on Day #1 (make sure you can stay home that day). Later that same day (about 5-6 hours later), consume an osmotic based laxative, such as Mirilax....but take about 5-6 servings at once. This will not harm you, as doctors regularly prescribe a dose of this type of laxarve (identical active ingredients found in Mirilax) that is the equivalent of up to 10 servings of Mirilax at once. Take this same dose of Mirilax (or a generic alternative for less money) again on Day 2.

The point of using these types of laxatives is not just to help eliminate backed up waste, which nearly ALL off-season (and usually pre-contest too) BB'rs suffer from, but to help clean off the walls of the digestive tract. This type of waste can attach itself to the sides of the digestive walls for months and even years, which has many detrimental effects, including appetite suppression.

On days 1-3, take high dosages of probiotics (which you should be taking regularly anyway). An excellent food product you should be regularly consuming is called kefir. It is a milk-vased yogurt type food, which contains about 5-6X s mny active strains of probiotics as regular yogurt, in large quantities. It is FAR superior to traditional yogurt and is considered a "super-food". You should be consuming at least 4-8 ounces every day. This will help keep your digestuve tract clean and also help assist with keeping your appetite intact, not to mention its numerous health benefits.

4.) Drop any oral steroids, which may be negatively impacting your appetite. This alone for som guys, is enough to make a very big difference. Sometimes the appetite suppression experienced with oral AAS is due to liver stress, but it can also be due to the steroid itself, even if liver enzymes are in an acceptable range. If it is due to liver stress, a liver aide product will help, but if it is due to the steroid itself, you may have to find another steroid to use if you want your appetite back. Two common steroids which can cause this to happen are SD and Anadrol.

5.) Add GHRP-6 to your regimen. It is dirt cheap and for many BB'rs, it can work miracles for increaing appetite.

6.) Injectable B-6 may help increase appetite, as well.



There are other things you can do, as well, but this is a good start and will likely make a very significant differene in both your appetite and how you feel overall.

 

[Solo_]

These posts have helped a lot.

I took a couple days off the forced eating and let my body rest, only eating and drinking when I wanted. Now things feel much better.

Mods should sticky this thread in the nutrition section.

 

[MGC]

Consume carb sources low in fiber.

 

[UnderDawg]

Try injectable b12

From personal experience i have injected 1000mcg E.D
b12 for weeks

did nothing

Used slim shots compounded for our weight loss clinic
Did nothing

Amino energy cocktails
Did nothing

On the other hand my patients swear by them...some say it increases sex drive too

Try try and try again

 

[saps]

Like others have referenced GHRP6 gives me hunger like nothing else on earth. Dosing is different than if using it for appetite versus GH release. I've found 500mcg is a decent dose to induce a mass feeding. I've gone as high as 800mcg myself and that enabled me to eat a 5lb hamburger. GHRP6 enables me to eat without feeling full probably double the rate of non-GHRP6

 

[ritchie]

Can't eat? Burn one down!

 

[musclehead33]

Those two that I highlited above!

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Go with what maniac suggested and also a good 420 break helps alot with above protocol.