Anyone try Primo with no test

[b_cornelius]

Yes.. they used to do no test cycles.. but the cycles normally woukd have dbol in them back then.. which of course supplies conversion to estrogen..

Dbol?. Oh yah, I remember that stuff now. Back around '99-2000 I had some of that before 17aa-supersteroids were called "prohormones" at the supermarket. Good times, personally, I was a with the classic Deca/Dbol.
Your 200mg Test with Primo flies with flying colors. For stuff like that, a person may also wanna try TRT with RAD-140. I don't call it SARM; RAD is a straight up non-steroidal androgen agonist.

 

[Mitchlowkey]

It would be great to run dbol over test, good feels, strength boost, full as a house and alongside primo in a deficit would be lovely imo.
Just I’d feel edgy about gyno flare up.
My trt is on point now dose wise.
Interesting to consider how much dbol (inj) would be comparable to 15mg enanthate.

 

[madg]

I am from small eu country

First 5 years on i never used test , but i cycled no blast/cruise

I was taught like this from old nabba competitors in eu

My cycles used to be

Deca/dboll
Eq/drol
Primo/winny
Primo/tren

Was staying on for 6 weeks then off for 4

I loved this way of cycling

Then i learned english and joined forums

When i started blast/cruise i couldnt do it anymore

My estro would crash around week 6-8 and feel like crap

Now i do

12.5 mg pharma test e ed
2-4 iu gh ed
25 mg proviron ed

For my trt and when i want to blast

I raise gh to 6 iu and add 600 primo

 

[Mitchlowkey]

I am from small eu country

First 5 years on i never used test , but i cycled no blast/cruise

I was taught like this from old nabba competitors in eu

My cycles used to be

Deca/dboll
Eq/drol
Primo/winny
Primo/tren

Was staying on for 6 weeks then off for 4

I loved this way of cycling

Then i learned english and joined forums

When i started blast/cruise i couldnt do it anymore

My estro would crash around week 6-8 and feel like crap

Now i do

12.5 mg pharma test e ed
2-4 iu gh ed
25 mg proviron ed

For my trt and when i want to blast

I raise gh to 6 iu and add 600 primo

Exactly my vibe Madg!

 

[madg]

Happy to help my friend

Respect

 

[juggy38]

125mg week of test with 200 mast and whatever primo dose...definitely shouldn’t have any estrogen problems

 

[Mitchlowkey]

Indeed my man, a little mast e is a potential addition, just trying to minimize lipid hits.

 

[grizzly978]

125mg week of test with 200 mast and whatever primo dose...definitely shouldn’t have any estrogen problems

After reading all the advice, the test is at 125 mg per week. Primo is at 600mgs and var between 25-50mg.
The changes have been drastic, I posted pics over a month ago and now, weight is down and my muscles are looking very full , even arms are getting nasty, I will get some progress pics , this is an arm pump last night after doing weighted dips, the primo and cardio are like a furnace to recomp.
Still a long way to go before competing but I’ll grind out the work, slacked for months and lost a lot of muscle and put on fat

 

[Mitchlowkey]

Good stuff brother
Let’s keep grinding
Keep us updated

 

[pimpman]

150mg trt shouldnt bloat you. Diet? Other issues?

No idea why you would think mast would keep 'libido in place'. Give it a go?

Exactly right DIET is to blame for most bloating

 

[pimpman]

I’m looking to run Primo at 600mg a week and Mast E at 200mg a week to stay dry. Test at any dose really bloats me up bad, even AI’s don’t help a lot.

I figure the Mast will help with libido in place of test...... opinions on this ?

The bloating from test is diet related. Try test at low dose eliminate salt and carbs completely for a few weeks and watch how you wont hold water bloat

 

[grizzly978]

The bloating from test is diet related. Try test at low dose eliminate salt and carbs completely for a few weeks and watch how you wont hold water bloat

Thanks brother, I have cut down on sodium and have been dropping my carbs and replacing them with veggies like broccoli and carrots.
At this point, bloat is minimal and I did not run mast and am not taking an AI. Everything dried out with fixing the diet and adding in hitt cardio 3x per week

 

[madg]

After reading all the advice, the test is at 125 mg per week. Primo is at 600mgs and var between 25-50mg.
The changes have been drastic, I posted pics over a month ago and now, weight is down and my muscles are looking very full , even arms are getting nasty, I will get some progress pics , this is an arm pump last night after doing weighted dips, the primo and cardio are like a furnace to recomp.
Still a long way to go before competing but I’ll grind out the work, slacked for months and lost a lot of muscle and put on fat

Haha so happy for you man !

Almost exact blast im on right now

12,5 mg test e e d
25 mg proviron ed
600 mg primo ew
40 mg var ed
6 iu gh ed

Keep the hard work up and you will be bwtter than before

 

[pimpman]

Thanks brother, I have cut down on sodium and have been dropping my carbs and replacing them with veggies like broccoli and carrots.
At this point, bloat is minimal and I did not run mast and am not taking an AI. Everything dried out with fixing the diet and adding in hitt cardio 3x per week

Bro you look very lean and vainly. You can see the bicep head very good. Nice job. Yea any green veggie is good all green. And of course how can I forget to mention cardio

 

[lookslikesausage]

I am from small eu country

First 5 years on i never used test , but i cycled no blast/cruise

I was taught like this from old nabba competitors in eu

My cycles used to be

Deca/dboll
Eq/drol
Primo/winny
Primo/tren

Was staying on for 6 weeks then off for 4

I loved this way of cycling

Then i learned english and joined forums

When i started blast/cruise i couldnt do it anymore

My estro would crash around week 6-8 and feel like crap

Now i do

12.5 mg pharma test e ed
2-4 iu gh ed
25 mg proviron ed

For my trt and when i want to blast

I raise gh to 6 iu and add 600 primo

was gyno an issue with any of these combos (deca/dbol or EQ/Anadrol) or this style of cycling? I would imagine for those 4 weeks off you would feel like shit for a few weeks and levels would be tanked.

 

[repmks]

I used to like test when I was younger. I used to be able to run up to 500-750 migs of that sh!t a cycle or two a year no zits no hairloss, no blood pressure changes,
but the older I get the more sensitive I seemed to get to DHT to the point where it became unbearable to run it over 100mgs ever. I go off completely these days or hrt at 50-60 mgs tops per week if I need to have alot of sex.

So over the years I tried to find a testless combo that would work for me. I know a guy who has been blasting and cruising on test with no dht blockers for the past 20 years, has thicker hair than most women, and clear skin.
For me test gives me insane ingrown hairs, deep scarring acne on chest forearms and back every time and my scalp just get set on fire. I must have genetic predisposition where I have alot of receptors in the skin.

(I am a fan of deca and npp just needs to be paired with the right stuff, like test, tren, winny to work)
Proviron Deca didn't work crappy results.
Masteron Deca didn't work crappy results.
Deca Dbol is ok but just doesn't give me the hardness or strength I am looking for.
Eq Deca didn't work crappy results.
Tren Deca was great but tren is very androgenic and also spikes bp so I started running into the same sides I did as running test.
Winny Deca was great but winny still too androgenic to run daily.

Last year I tried a testless Primo and Deca 12 week cycle it was awesome. I want to say I did around a 50 50 split of 600 mg Primo and 600 Deca per week. Surprisingly my libido was like I was on test or hrt without those androgrenic side affects or BP issues.
I pulsed Rad-140 + Ostarine on some training days. I felt really good and healthy throughout the 12 week period.

My next cycle will probably be primo and deca again at 800/800 for 10-12 weeks with Rad-140 + Ostarine pulsed.


Some people just can't run test like others.

 

[samson516]

I am from small eu country

First 5 years on i never used test , but i cycled no blast/cruise

I was taught like this from old nabba competitors in eu

My cycles used to be

Deca/dboll
Eq/drol
Primo/winny
Primo/tren

Was staying on for 6 weeks then off for 4

I loved this way of cycling

Then i learned english and joined forums

When i started blast/cruise i couldnt do it anymore

My estro would crash around week 6-8 and feel like crap

Now i do

12.5 mg pharma test e ed
2-4 iu gh ed
25 mg proviron ed

For my trt and when i want to blast

I raise gh to 6 iu and add 600 primo

This is interesting! What were your dosages for those combos listed when you did this style of cycling?

 

[madg]

This is interesting! What were your dosages for those combos listed when you did this style of cycling?

Deca 400-600 mg
Dboll 20-60 mg ed
Eq 600 mg
Drol 50-100 mg ed
Primo 600 mg
Winny 50mg ed
Tren 300 mg

Hope this helps brother

Respect

 

[madg]

Wait so you get an idea

This is 2 year training , 2 cycles ( deca/dboll - primo/winny )

Photo taken during primo/winny stack

19 yo , 1,75 m , 78 kg

 

[Cv215]

Wait so you get an idea

This is 2 year training , 2 cycles ( deca/dboll - primo/winny )

Photo taken during primo/winny stack

19 yo , 1,75 m , 78 kg

Damn what do you look like now