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Are insulin gains permanent

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Never took slin but know a few guys who have and they gained considerable amount of weight and even strength on it ,now ,when you come off slin is it just like gear? if you come off completely do you lose a lot if not all your gains ?
 
They can be as permanent or temporary as gains from anything else , it depends how you use it

If you use it right and don't add on a ton of sloppy weight then you can definitely add lean tissue with it the same as if you did a cycle of AAS.
It can cause a significant amount of water retention which lead to weight gain , but also strength and endurance as well as nutrient absorbtion.
If you use that increase in power to nutrition to force growth then it will be more permanent
 
Personally I don't think so.

I made it to a certain weight before on low dose gh/slin/aas.

Got away from gear for awhile.

Then got to the same weight years later on just AAS and my arms were an inch smaller on only AAS. Same routine,similar diet, similar bodyfat %.
 
The body will eventually return to homeostasis.

You hit 240lbs with 1.2 grams, 5iu growth, and humalog pre workout….

You drop to 200mg test…..eventually you will slowly return to your genetic limit on 200mg test.

Even Frieza can’t be final form all the time.

Edit: it also depends on how long you held that size. If you peaked at 240 for a month…that’s one thing…if you’ve been 240 for 5 years….that’s another
 
The body will eventually return to homeostasis.

You hit 240lbs with 1.2 grams, 5iu growth, and humalog pre workout….

You drop to 200mg test…..eventually you will slowly return to your genetic limit on 200mg test.

Even Frieza can’t be final form all the time.

Edit: it also depends on how long you held that size. If you peaked at 240 for a month…that’s one thing…if you’ve been 240 for 5 years….that’s another
Also imo depends to a limited factor how old where you when you gained that size

But overall yes you will go down but some gains during youth the body just won't let go unless you starve yourself to death
 
many trainers believe that insulin is heavily overestimated and that most of the gains are achieved thanks to the combination of androgens + hgh.
 
Easy answer, fuck no.
Your silly

Thing w insulin the water weight you will definitely lose

Other then that up to your maintenance, food , sleep, and workouts to keep the rest

As for gains beyond normal - all of those gains can be lost based on your body and hormones
Which has been echoed in this thread
 
Would it make sense to rotate slin in and out when you cruise or are taking it easy on AAS?

Say someone blasts 10 weeks 500 test ew 50 drol Ed

Then they take it easy for 6 weeks at 250 test.

Use the slin for the second 6 weeks to help keep the look/gains
 
Would it make sense to rotate slin in and out when you cruise or are taking it easy on AAS?

Say someone blasts 10 weeks 500 test ew 50 drol Ed

Then they take it easy for 6 weeks at 250 test.

Use the slin for the second 6 weeks to help keep the look/gains
I think you added something to anyone's arsenal - nice nice -
 
Take away the stimulus that got you there and eventually you will digress
 
The body will eventually return to homeostasis.

You hit 240lbs with 1.2 grams, 5iu growth, and humalog pre workout….

You drop to 200mg test…..eventually you will slowly return to your genetic limit on 200mg test.

Even Frieza can’t be final form all the time.

Edit: it also depends on how long you held that size. If you peaked at 240 for a month…that’s one thing…if you’ve been 240 for 5 years….that’s another
All is 100 percent correct in my opinion!!!
 
None of this shit is permanent.

If you want to look like a freak you need gear 24/7.
 
I find gains are only as permanent as one digestive system, hormones, training etc. allow them to be. Muscle can be maintained to a degree with less then it took to get the muscle there. But all things fade and have an expiration date. Just enjoy it while it's there.
 
^^^it's already been said above ..but i'll try to condense it again:


►your physique is a results of a combination of factors:
-a given amount of calories
..& their macro ratio

-a given given amount of stimulus
..& the particulars of that stimulus (..one example: PL vs BB training)

-a given amount of rest

-a given amount of drugs
..& the characteristics/synergies of those drugs

^^^this is just a short-list of the most basic "influencers"
(..age ..drug duration ..drug tolerance ..endo/ecto/meso ..genetics ..predispositions ..health ..etc etc etc ..are "some" other things that play a part)

►any change in the equation that you employed to achieve a certain look/physique; affects & changes the results

..these "changes" may manifest faster for some than others ..but they are eventual when you subtract (..or add)



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