Really? They have the same mechanism of action I believe so I always alternate them when needing a fat burner. 3 weeks on and switch. I never took them together. Was there a noticeable difference together?That was my go to. I would take it with a ECA stack. With what's out now what I take it again? Probably not.
Same here. I'll use the occasional ecy pre fasted cardio....but the older I get the more I realize...2 things are needed for fat loss and neither is in a pill or syringeIts ok. Its totally unnecessary for me though, I find that just calorie reduction, increased cardio and some Winstrol works perfectly. Maybe some ECA thrown in there.
I use Clen for pre-work but no more than 20mgs. I sleep fine.
Same, shake like crazy. That was enough for me.I’d like it a lot more if it didn’t give me the shakes and simultaneously destroy my sleep
It’s effective for fat loss but not a fan of the sides personally







































































