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Are you a fan of Clenbuterol?

Question for the guys who get sleep issues on Clen:

Do you find changing the timing when you take it helps with sleep, or because of its long half life (25-39 hours) you’re just kind of fucked either way?

I recently added 40mcg Clen back in, and honestly the sides have been manageable (no shakiness or tremors or anxiety) and admittedly I’m kind of enjoying the boost in the gym, but….it’s kind of wrecking my sleep. I’ve been taking it at 4am as soon as I wake up, and even the following night I feel like I’m waking up every 15 minutes.

Would taking it right before bed be a little better hopefully? That way I’m asleep by the time it starts? Or maybe this would just make it worse since it usually peaks 2-4 hours later?
Taking it in the morning will help a *little*, but there's no getting around it - a significant amount will be in your system when you go to bed. I just accept that my sleep is gonna be shit during contest prep.
 
I like it and find it useful regardless of what else you are running.
Ive ran T3,DNP,Clen,and ECA all at the same time before. Could only handle that for 2 weeks, but it did its job...
The older I get the less I can tolerate higher amounts. I cap out at 60mcg daily and split that 30/30 morning and mid afternoon.
I still do the old school 2 week on 2 week off program. I know theres new studies out there that say you can run it longer, but its always worked well for me doing it that way so I just stick to it.
 
healthier and more effective to just increase your GLP1 and eat less rather than take clen or anything else that can stress the heart
 
Anyone found that Clen gives them diarrhea and if so, how do you combat it? I am on 40mcg and seem to have a bout of diarrhea each morning after taking it. I have been eliminating a few things each morning but that’s the only thing I can think of that could be causing it.
 
Taking it in the morning will help a *little*, but there's no getting around it - a significant amount will be in your system when you go to bed. I just accept that my sleep is gonna be shit during contest prep.
Yeah that’s fair and kind of what I was expecting.

After a couple days the sides have kind of leveled off. Sleeping good again, still have energy from the Clen but it’s not overly stimulating like it was in the first few days

I’ll probably just run 40mcg for 10 days, drop it for a bit and repeat. Not really looking to taper up on the dosage, the semi low dose in the background is seeming to work very well from a recomp standpoint. I’m adding weight, retaining less water, and seeming to lean out (or maybe it’s just the reduction in subq water). Either way I like what it’s doing
 
Formoterol. Seen Mike Arnold mention it as an alternative to clen, without the sides.
Ah I see. It's ithe beta agonist component of my ICS inhaler.
 
I love clen

I used to take it before bed when I was heavier - made it easier to breathe and use my cpap

I’m going to start using it again next week when I ramp up my fat loss phase
Its great. I'm always impressed by the extra strength it gives me in the gym. On par or even stronger than some orals Ive used. I usually cycle it 3 weeks on/off. I've never tried it before bed but I did find I can only take a max of 40mcg before the gym or my muscles start acting too weird during lifts, like twitching, contracting weird, occasional ab cramps or my quads just not wanting to let me bend them after a set. So I'll wait till after the gym to take the rest.
 
clen can fuck up your sleep which absolutely kills progress

in a time when we have good access to GLP1s, which can improve sleep quality and are way more effective for fat loss.... wouldn't even bother with clen
 
With all the new fat loss agents we have, do you still see a place for Clen?

Some love it, some hate it, at least that's what I gathered.
YEP! the fatloss is AMAZING along with the cognitive focus.
 
Anyone found that Clen gives them diarrhea and if so, how do you combat it? I am on 40mcg and seem to have a bout of diarrhea each morning after taking it. I have been eliminating a few things each morning but that’s the only thing I can think of that could be causing it.
Did you find out if it was from the Clen?
 
Anyone found that Clen gives them diarrhea and if so, how do you combat it? I am on 40mcg and seem to have a bout of diarrhea each morning after taking it. I have been eliminating a few things each morning but that’s the only thing I can think of that could be causing it.
Basically a high enough amount of ANY stim will give me the runs, Caff/Ephe/Addy/Nico etc. Really not so much with the clen though. Maybe not taking enough of it though, I cap out at 40 to 80mcg. Usually only 40mcg

Its probably something you wont be able to escape unless you drop the dose and/or take it at a different time in the day.
 
Did you find out if it was from the Clen?
I don’t think it is. I am eliminating things from my first 2 meals (that’s when it happens) and today it didn’t happen. So now going to add back things one at a time to determine what it was).
 

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