Arimidex and Aromasin (think about your answer)

[LK3]

Pretty sure JM takes 40mg/ED Tamox and doesn't use an AI.

To answer the question: Neither

100-200mg every day of DIM will keep E at bay on HRT IMO.

i tried that, and pretty much every other thing...
i always go back to adex. just works for me.
fyi the dose in the stuff you are refering too was less.:lightbulb:

i use nolv sometimes, usually if on more then just test though.

if you guys can get regular bloods no issue then do that rather then guess.
i generally guess

i dont always need it so i take only if my nips get a lil sore.

 

[LATS]

Pretty sure JM takes 40mg/ED Tamox and doesn't use an AI.

To answer the question: Neither

100-200mg every day of DIM will keep E at bay on HRT IMO.

Yeah.. I get my e2 panel back tomorrow.. If it's getting too low ( joints as I stated are killing me) I'll get rid of the aromasin and strictly run the dim and retest in 6 weeks.. I know there are studies noe that show nolva is actually a AI and not just a blocker via its metabolites.. So I might give nolva a go .. I just read a study that aromasin and joint pain nay not be strictly estro reduction related but a side effect of the drug in general for some..

 

[A50#]

I used 25mg on MON/TUE/WED for the longest time and it worked great for me. My E2 levels were perfect and I felt great the entire time. I switched to Arimidex 0.25mg MON/TUES/WED and while my E2 #'s are in check I feel as though the Arimidex gives me some fatigue/lethargy sides that I never noticed with Aromasin. All my AI's are straight from the pharmacy too, no research grade or UGL.

 

[LATS]

I used 25mg on MON/TUE/WED for the longest time and it worked great for me. My E2 levels were perfect and I felt great the entire time. I switched to Arimidex 0.25mg MON/TUES/WED and while my E2 #'s are in check I feel as though the Arimidex gives me some fatigue/lethargy sides that I never noticed with Aromasin. All my AI's are straight from the pharmacy too, no research grade or UGL.

What dosage of test were you on..?

 

[Swifto]

Yeah.. I get my e2 panel back tomorrow.. If it's getting too low ( joints as I stated are killing me) I'll get rid of the aromasin and strictly run the dim and retest in 6 weeks.. I know there are studies noe that show nolva is actually a AI and not just a blocker via its metabolites.. So I might give nolva a go .. I just read a study that aromasin and joint pain nay not be strictly estro reduction related but a side effect of the drug in general for some..

Data suggests its directly toxic to joints, not just from E decrease. I'll try and find the study. I used to post it at steroid.com.

 

[heavyhitter]

Myth. The effect of arimidex on lipids is too minuscule to make a difference.

Not from what ive seen. What evidence do you have to support this?

 

[heavyhitter]

Data suggests its directly toxic to joints, not just from E decrease. I'll try and find the study. I used to post it at steroid.com.

Really? Id like to read that study. Definitely been having some joint issues lately

 

[LATS]

Data suggests its directly toxic to joints, not just from E decrease. I'll try and find the study. I used to post it at steroid.com.

I Wonder if arimidex has the same effect on joints.. I have seen a study with aromasin but not arimidex.. Will have to search..

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

Yeah.. I get my e2 panel back tomorrow.. If it's getting too low ( joints as I stated are killing me) I'll get rid of the aromasin and strictly run the dim and retest in 6 weeks.. I know there are studies noe that show nolva is actually a AI and not just a blocker via its metabolites.. So I might give nolva a go .. I just read a study that aromasin and joint pain nay not be strictly estro reduction related but a side effect of the drug in general for some..

hey Lats, remember I talked to you about primo awhile ago. Since adding that I dropped my TRT dose down real low (100mg/week). I dropped AI also since I assumed 100mg/week wouldn't need it.

My joints (shoulders for me too) feel SO MUCH better getting rid of the aromasin. I swear they would hurt from that drug. I have zero estrogen sides either.

My question, have you ever noticed that primo has an anti-estrogen effect at all? I'm frankly surprised even on 100mg/week that I don't get a little bit of puffy nipples or something like that....but zero bloat, great BP/pulse, no nipple issues. All good. Test 100mg + Primo 500mg /week. Nothing else.

 

[LATS]

hey Lats, remember I talked to you about primo awhile ago. Since adding that I dropped my TRT dose down real low (100mg/week). I dropped AI also since I assumed 100mg/week wouldn't need it.

My joints (shoulders for me too) feel SO MUCH better getting rid of the aromasin. I swear they would hurt from that drug. I have zero estrogen sides either.

My question, have you ever noticed that primo has an anti-estrogen effect at all? I'm frankly surprised even on 100mg/week that I don't get a little bit of puffy nipples or something like that....but zero bloat, great BP/pulse, no nipple issues. All good. Test 100mg + Primo 500mg /week. Nothing else.

Yeah primo is awesome.. I have been debating that also.. I have a buddy who recently dumped all anti e and just went with 100 test and 50 mgs of Masterone .. Daily inject of both.. Said gains were the same and estro is in line..

 

[LATS]

hey Lats, remember I talked to you about primo awhile ago. Since adding that I dropped my TRT dose down real low (100mg/week). I dropped AI also since I assumed 100mg/week wouldn't need it.

My joints (shoulders for me too) feel SO MUCH better getting rid of the aromasin. I swear they would hurt from that drug. I have zero estrogen sides either.

My question, have you ever noticed that primo has an anti-estrogen effect at all? I'm frankly surprised even on 100mg/week that I don't get a little bit of puffy nipples or something like that....but zero bloat, great BP/pulse, no nipple issues. All good. Test 100mg + Primo 500mg /week. Nothing else.

As for the anti estro effect no I haven't noticed that.. Being that primo is a DHB it wouldn't have much effect on estro on paper.. There was a bit of talk about primo being a decent anti estro years ago but mant attributed that to the fact that much of the primo Back then was masterone which we know there is some anti e effect with mast.. But primo is still my favorite..

 

[JAP426]

ED pinning sub q or intramuscular keeps my estro lower when running TRT dose. Might be worth looking into over using an AI for TRT.

I was thinking about subq pinning in stomach. Maybe 50 mgs every other day. But i was also told subq pinning was not optimal for guys with higher bodyfat.

 

[LK3]

Yeah primo is awesome.. I have been debating that also.. I have a buddy who recently dumped all anti e and just went with 100 test and 50 mgs of Masterone .. Daily inject of both.. Said gains were the same and estro is in line..

low t with mast is great.

i notice no need for anti e with test low like that and either primo or mast.. mast a lil dryer.

 

[A50#]

What dosage of test were you on..?

500mg per week. Even while on TRT(100-125mg/wk) I still need an AI or some type of Anti E. I've been thinking of switching over to a SERM like Nolvadex or Raloxifene during my TRT and giving the AI's a break for awhile just to see if it works better for me. Maybe only running AI's when I'm on a full blown cycle.