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Arnold split vs PPL

I remember when I really got serious into organizing my training, I was a freshman in college in 2001, and was obsessing over finding the "perfect" split, 25 years later and the fuckin debate rages on. I guess the holy grail will never truly be found, and if it is, it will just melt all of our faces like when they opened the ark in Indiana Jones.
 

I've been doing his 4 day split for almost a year. Going to a P/P/L/U split just to change things up.
 
Yeah i dont agree with everything the guy says. Pretty similar to an arnold split though.
 
If you post up a pic on this thread, the members will be able to critique areas for improvement and really give you advice on the training split that will take your physique to the next level.
 
It’s simple. Hit 6–9 sets per muscle group, staying 2–3 reps shy of failure (within the 8–12/15 range), with 1–2 minute rest periods. Rest, eat, take your gear, and grow.
I agree except the reps short of failure. Its way more simple to finish a set than mid set attempt a guess...and it will always be a guess....how many reps are "in the tank ".
 
You clearly haven't done this type of training since you're asking why it's not popular. It's torture and torment, and in my opinion, there's no way you'll do a 100% chest workout after your back, or vice versa. Regardless of training volume.
Sorry - need to raise my hand on this one.

I’ve utilized a chest/back split (usually chest, back, delts) for over a decade, and it was during this period (specifically my late 40s) that I achieved my best back development.
The idea that you cannot train both at 100% in a single session assumes that '100% effort' is defined by duration rather than intensity and mechanical tension. Keep volume low and even an all-out blitz is manageable.

My logic is rooted in the stimulus/recovery ratio. I train 3x per week for roughly 90 minutes.
I treat recovery as a proactive variable, not a passive byproduct. By compressing the work into an A/B split, I maximize the systemic recovery window, which is where hypertrophy actually occurs.

Beyond the physiology, there is the factor of lifestyle efficiency. I am a competitive bodybuilder, but I refuse to let the gym dictate my life. I allocate my time based on the highest ROI, whether that’s in the gym or with my family.
You won’t hear 'hustle culture' rhetoric from me; I prioritize a normal, happy existence because a chronically stressed, over-trained body and frazzled mind is catabolic. I spend plenty of time relaxing, walking, reading books, stacking my sneaker boxes, etc.

The goal is to be a bodybuilder in the gym and a husband/father everywhere else.
Growth happens when we stop confusing 'torture and torment' with effective programming.
Train as hard as possible and get out. How you divvy that up doesn't matter all that much in the big picture..
 
You wrote a great post. I agree with everything, but as I wrote earlier: even maintaining a low volume, I found it very difficult to train chest/back. Watching others, very few people do it. If you can do this workout in 1.5 hours, it means you really like the system. Ultimately, the most important thing is that it works for you. Because, as already mentioned, practically anything will work; it's just a matter of not making it too difficult. If this workout isn't difficult for you, then great.

I simply think you're in the minority who likes to combine two large groups. I also currently prefer to train in a style similar to yours: three times a week, low volume, high intensity, the final set to failure, sometimes reinforced with an intensifier depending on the day—rest pause, drop set, etc.

For example, I once tried this split:
1. Shoulders/Arms (definitely my favorite workout)
2. Chest/Quads
3. Back/Hams

I found this easier than chest and back. Keep growing and being healthy, @hawkmoon.
 

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