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Artificial depression, social anxiety and lethargy....wtf is causing it?

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By artificial I mean I know in my head I shouldn’t be depressed but I can’t get my mind off of sad things and I don’t want to do shit but sleep all day. I was in New Orleans last weekend cracking them at the casino, which is a nice departure from the norm, and still had to force myself to go out and do shit. At night especially I just didn’t want to do deal with crowds I stayed in instead. Back home this Memorial Day weekend I had plenty of options but just stayed home, all I wanted to do is sleep. Money has been good, family is all healthy, I’m starting to look decent in summer shape again I should be rocking but I don’t want to do shit.

Anyway, I was hoping someone could maybe narrow it down from the compounds im using. Specifically I know it’s the chantix I’m on, its bad for depression but I need to quit smoking and the depression got a lot worse since I started my cycle:


Low test
High tren
Moderate anavar
Low t bol
Caber
Intermittent nolva


I’m thinking the tren obviously but does anyone else have any thoughts or ideas that would help? I’m tired of this shit, I don’t want to be depressed anymore and I shouldn’t be, it’s completely drug induced.
 
Chantix plays a huge role..that shit gave me wicked nightmares and weird emotions. The fact your nicotine deprived also doesn’t help. I still can’t fuly kick the habit and after 3 days of no nicotine, my mind was everywhere at all times. And through extensive reading, it’s equivalent to being a drug addict when trying to come off nicotine.

A lot of non smokers will tell you why the fuck you cant kick cigarettes but truth is, cigarettes are so easily habitual through out your day as oppose to just a bad vise on the weekends, so it literally attaches to just about any and all things done in your day making it very difficult to be clear minded when wanting to crave one just about all the time when quitting. My 0.2 cents

Oh yea...and Tren!:)
 
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My gf, who can naturally be hot-tempered if things don't go the way she wants to :eek: nearly killed me while she was put on Chantix a few years ago... from what she told me afterwards, what was going on in her head at the time was certainly not pretty... :eek:

Stuff works great for what it's supposed to do though, as she actually managed to stop smoking. Got back on two years later, but that's another story.

Chantix + high tren + nolva... I know I just couldn't cope with everyday life on that AWFUL stack. :(
 
By artificial I mean I know in my head I shouldn’t be depressed but I can’t get my mind off of sad things and I don’t want to do shit but sleep all day. I was in New Orleans last weekend cracking them at the casino, which is a nice departure from the norm, and still had to force myself to go out and do shit. At night especially I just didn’t want to do deal with crowds I stayed in instead. Back home this Memorial Day weekend I had plenty of options but just stayed home, all I wanted to do is sleep. Money has been good, family is all healthy, I’m starting to look decent in summer shape again I should be rocking but I don’t want to do shit.

Anyway, I was hoping someone could maybe narrow it down from the compounds im using. Specifically I know it’s the chantix I’m on, its bad for depression but I need to quit smoking and the depression got a lot worse since I started my cycle:


Low test
High tren
Moderate anavar
Low t bol
Caber
Intermittent nolva


I’m thinking the tren obviously but does anyone else have any thoughts or ideas that would help? I’m tired of this shit, I don’t want to be depressed anymore and I shouldn’t be, it’s completely drug induced.

Trembolone
 
My gf, who can naturally be hot-tempered if things don't go the way she wants to :eek: nearly killed me while she was put on Chantix a few years ago... from what she told me afterwards, what was going on in her head at the time was certainly not pretty... :eek:

Stuff works great for what it's supposed to do though, as she actually managed to stop smoking. Got back on two years later, but that's another story.

Chantix + high tren + nolva... I know I just couldn't cope with everyday life on that AWFUL stack. :(
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Chantix (known to cause depression and suicidal thoughts in some)
Tren
Caber
Nolva



All of which can affect mood. Especially the tren and chantix. Then you have a dopamine agonist screwing with your neurotransmitters even more(caber). Moderate-high doses of tren make me very dark and depressed.
 
Thanks guys i appreciate the input a lot, shit I feel like I should be a lot more fucked up than I am I’m looking forward to leveling out.

The tren run is almost done and so is the nolva/caber with it. The chantix though that one is a bitch because I really need to quit smoking and it works. Like I said I was in much better shape mentally before I started my cycle but still on chantix so maybe it won’t be so compounded with the other things.

Thanks again fellas
 
the chantix warnings include "may cause suicidal thoughts and depression"... That`s better than smoking?
 
Tren always messes with me as the doses get higher. I have strange thoughts and I am convinced that they're legitimate, logical thoughts... until I come off. Then I'm like, WTF was I thinking??

^^Tren could be the worst offender here, but everyone is different^^
 
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I'd honestly prefer to still be smoking than use Chantix again. Horrible shit. I quit using willpower and nicotine gum in the end, I smoked 2 packs a day. The worst withdrawal is over in a week or so, just need to keep busy to take your mind off it.
 
Thanks guys i appreciate the input a lot, shit I feel like I should be a lot more fucked up than I am I’m looking forward to leveling out.

The tren run is almost done and so is the nolva/caber with it. The chantix though that one is a bitch because I really need to quit smoking and it works. Like I said I was in much better shape mentally before I started my cycle but still on chantix so maybe it won’t be so compounded with the other things.

Thanks again fellas

try nac to help with the smoking.
i stopped "normal" cigs a few years back still enjoy tobacco too much but...
a few years ago i got an email asking about nac to help with quitting cigs, i thought weird but looked into it and sure enough there was some info.

times when i have stopped tobacco completely i have used and found it does help to some degree. it also helps to clear/clean out your lungs.

the times i have stopped smoking i have also found hit cardio to help, again kinda clean out the lungs, make breathing hurt, regenerate those fuckers.

im too scared to touch tren or really much of any aas right now. lol

that said... sometimes going out n all that shit just isnt so much fun. lol
 
the chantix warnings include "may cause suicidal thoughts and depression"... That`s better than smoking?



yea because it’s not certain, but you’d certainly have a heart Attack or lung disease if you continue to smoke


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