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AVATAR... what an EXTRAORDINARY movie!!

i will say this though.. i am utterly amazed at the mis information the international press gives their people about the usa.. i have cousins who live in ireland.. and the crap they tell me they hear is amazing.. and completely false..:confused:

If you watch Fox News on a regular basis, the intl media will for sure look awfully liberal in your eyes... :D ;)

Regarding The Hangover, yes that movie cracked me up too... and good thing, no political debate about it... :eek: :)
 
hmmm...

If you watch Fox News on a regular basis, the intl media will for sure look awfully liberal in your eyes... :D ;)

Regarding The Hangover, yes that movie cracked me up too... and good thing, no political debate about it... :eek: :)

I guess we we all think differently about what we hear. :)

I personally think Fox News and the Republicans are extremely LIBERAL and they have nothing conservative about them.

Here is what the Neo-Cons are:
*Globalists
*Wish to stick their nose in every countries business
*Unwaivering support for Israel as they slaughter Palestinians
(which brings Arab terrorism to America)
terrorists do not hate america because of its Freedoms :mad:
(as George Bush told us)
*They support giving 20 billion dollars to Israel a year
while America is in extreme debt
*Trying with all their might to influence a war with Iran
*Trillions of dollars spend abroad helping other nations under them
*No attention to securing the Mexican Border
*They do not believe in Small Government
George Bush passed the Patriot Act
*They always increase the deficit
*No discussion of whether the Federal Reserve is beneficial to America

BUT..........
We are supposed to clap our hands because they are slightly fiscally conservative when it comes to taxes for U.S citizens and because the appose Obama's Communist health care? :confused: give me a break.

As for the Democrats

They also are Globalists. They are extreme socialists leaning toward communism.

Neither Party puts America first

But Phidias.

If you want to go see Avatar a second time bro, I will go with you. My treat!:)
 
I guess we we all think differently about what we hear. :)

I personally think Fox News and the Republicans are extremely LIBERAL and they have nothing conservative about them.

Here is what the Neo-Cons are:
*Globalists
*Wish to stick their nose in every countries business
*Unwaivering support for Israel as they slaughter Palestinians
(which brings Arab terrorism to America)
terrorists do not hate america because of its Freedoms :mad:
(as George Bush told us)
*They support giving 20 billion dollars to Israel a year
while America is in extreme debt
*Trying with all their might to influence a war with Iran
*Trillions of dollars spend abroad helping other nations under them
*No attention to securing the Mexican Border
*They do not believe in Small Government
George Bush passed the Patriot Act
*They always increase the deficit
*No discussion of whether the Federal Reserve is beneficial to America

BUT..........
We are supposed to clap our hands because they are slightly fiscally conservative when it comes to taxes for U.S citizens and because the appose Obama's Communist health care? :confused: give me a break.

As for the Democrats

They also are Globalists. They are extreme socialists leaning toward communism.

Neither Party puts America first

But Phidias.

If you want to go see Avatar a second time bro, I will go with you. My treat!:)


great post, but what you said about the repubs almost exactly translates to the democrats as well. too bad it is a 2 party system...its a false choice. its like having to choose between test c and test e, people have their favorites but the results are the same.
 
Yes you are right

great post, but what you said about the repubs almost exactly translates to the democrats as well. too bad it is a 2 party system...its a false choice. its like having to choose between test c and test e, people have their favorites but the results are the same.

I like your analogy.

What would you like to Drink Sir? We have Pepsi...and we have Coke...

Some choices huh?:confused:

They DO NOT ALLOW third party candidate to participate in the debates. Free Country?:rolleyes:
 
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Watched it last night thought the effects were cool. However, the underlying political message was garbage.
 
Saw the movie today

Cool special effects, shit political message, lost interest about 1/2 of the way through.
 
TRUST ME PHIDAS.. for every fox news there is three others (cnn, msnbc, ect) that are so badly slanted to the left that any truthful info is not possible.. i am glad we have all the options but, anymore i dont rely on the news much for info..

but i agree conan.. that there needs to be a conservative party.. one that actually is conservative.. small gov.. personal responsibility, leave people alone to run their own lives.. the only person who actually had the right idea of conservatism was ron paul..and yes the demos are so far off base in knowing what the people want it is pathetic.. they see the polls and just ignore them "we know what is best for you".. the two party system is dead..
 
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The movie was entertaining.

TRUST ME PHIDAS.. for every fox news there is three others (cnn, msnbc, ect) that are so badly slanted to the left that any truthful info is not possible.. i am glad we have all the options but, anymore i dont rely on the news much for info..

but i agree conan.. that there needs to be a conservative party.. one that actually is conservative.. small gov.. personal responsibility, leave people alone to run their own lives.. the only person who actually had the right idea of conservatism was ron paul..and yes the demos are so far off base in knowing what the people want it is pathetic.. they see the polls and just ignore them "we know what is best for you".. the two party system is dead..

I want to be like one of those creatures!

I didn't like the Liberal agenda that was jammed down my throat at every turn. I have friends who are U.S. Marines. It pisses me off when a movie portrays our brave soldiers as evil. The very people who shed blood and died for this country.

That being said... I am glad you like the movie, Phidias. :)

Lats- I agree with you on the political points you've made in this thread.
 
I want to be like one of those creatures!

That's something I can agree on! :D ;)

I guess politics is like belief in God... something friends should avoid talking about at all costs! :eek: No need for silly and endless arguments... let's focus on what we have in common... like our shared love for chocolate, JT... :p ;)

That being said, Conan, I could have taken up on your offer, as I'm gonna watch it a second time on Sunday... ;)
 
.. small gov.. personal responsibility, leave people alone to run their own lives.. the only person who actually had the right idea of conservatism was ron paul.
Sounds like a Libertarian to me :)
 
I want to be like one of those creatures!

I didn't like the Liberal agenda that was jammed down my throat at every turn. I have friends who are U.S. Marines. It pisses me off when a movie portrays our brave soldiers as evil. The very people who shed blood and died for this country.

That being said... I am glad you like the movie, Phidias. :)

Lats- I agree with you on the political points you've made in this thread.

I just saw the movie and thought it was great. However I did not think it portrayed our soldiers as evil because the people in the movie were not fighting for a country but rather for a corporation. The soldiers in the movie were mercenaries fighting for money not for defense of country and principals.
 
Many people believe that the NWO will create a One World Governance ruled by a Corporate/Military Structure. Actually, Obama used the words "One World Governance" during his speeches at the Copenhagen Meetings, recently.
 
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I just saw the movie and thought it was great. However I did not think it portrayed our soldiers as evil because the people in the movie were not fighting for a country but rather for a corporation. The soldiers in the movie were mercenaries fighting for money not for defense of country and principals.


I work for a private corporation as well, just want to point out that theres a difference between a contractor and a merc. A merc has no political affiliation, will go anywhere, do anything for a dime. Us contractors only capitalize in service of political ideals we agree whole heartedly with for the most part (IE only fighting/providing services for the US and allied nations).


The guys in the movie were mercs, not contractors. Don't mean to be the military contractor police but just like to point out the difference just had someone start talking to me at the gym about it and they had no idea WTF they were talking about so ranting a bit in my head
 
Many people believe that the NWO will create a One World Governance ruled by a Corporate/Military Structure. Actually, Obama used the words "One World Governance" during his speeches at the Copenhagen Meetings, recently.


I'm starting to think there won't be a one world government but more of a central power scheme, allied nations under one leader then something to the degree of senators/congressmen for each country and for the most part a removal of a large part of the armed forces are start relying on contractors to a higher degree.
 
I'm starting to think there won't be a one world government but more of a central power scheme, allied nations under one leader then something to the degree of senators/congressmen for each country and for the most part a removal of a large part of the armed forces are start relying on contractors to a higher degree.

That is, exactly, what I'm describing. These private contractors ARE the armed force. That's what many fear the new Corporate/Military Structure will be.
 
The most outstanding movie I've EVER seen in my whole life! SIMPLY FANTASTIC! Yes absolutely awesome on all points. Thank you James Cameron for these nearly 3h of pure emotion.

If you still haven't watched it, go to the theater asap!!


Personal message now: someone find me a girl like Neytiri... I'm badly in Love. :eek: :p

Ive heard great reviews over and over. Perhaps when time permits this will be my choice movie.
 
That is, exactly, what I'm describing. These private contractors ARE the armed force. That's what many fear the new Corporate/Military Structure will be.

Nothing wrong w/ the private sector though, for the most part were far more effective that standard enlisted forces. I'm really hoping we start relying more on the private sector in the years to come, selfish as I know (more money for me) but far less American kids dying that have no place/no real training for tac situations and less collateral damage/bureaucracy.

I don't think joe schmo company will ever be able and contract me, but the large ones operating in political turmoil absolutely. But it won't be for anything like wiping out aliens lol, just PSD and such as it is now.
 
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we have to remember that for every neo con that has "brainwashed" a person here in the states there is a equal number, if not more, that has been "brainwashed" by the left wing liberals (many of which would rather save a tree and not a human and that is no exaggeration) .. most americans, as stated above, lean more to the middle and a little to the right.. most are anti-abortion (except for extreme cases of incest and rape) and pro small government ect.. the problem we are having now is that the politicians are not listening to the majority and doing their will.. that will bite many in the "tush" come november elections..

i will say this though.. i am utterly amazed at the mis information the international press gives their people about the usa.. i have cousins who live in ireland.. and the crap they tell me they hear is amazing.. and completely false..:confused: but again, the movie was very good.. no doubt.. special effects were amazing.. best movie?..no.. but will win based on cameron and its message in hollywood.. personally, i am a "hangover" guy and if they does not win i will boycott all movies..:D

Very true about how misinformed people overseas are, I have cousins in England and Italy and they got the wrong facts about the USA and yes the Hangover was a great movie, very funny :)
 
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i am a "hangover" guy and if they does not win i will boycott all movies..:D

Wife and I rented that last night and I gotta say, that was one of the funniest movies I have ever seen! The taser scene at the police station was priceless, but the entire movie was just hilarious.

Concerning politics in the US, I will say just this then I will jump back out. Its disturbing how polarized views have become. It seems that the only choices I am given these days are (a) become a socialist or (b) Have someone cram their version of their Bible down my throat. What ever happened to moderation? Its not even in our vocabulary anymore. I feel extremism on either end is unhealthy.
 
Avatar I-MAX 3D.as for the message its not that much of a stretch that we trashed our own plant and now we are moving on to some one else's. but as for the movie it self the shear imagination that went into to this movie as well as the visual effects makes it the most amazing thing i have ever experienced. to date. well worth the money.
 

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