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Hey all. So I wanted to share my experience with some of you, and also hopefully receive some insight.
I've noticed that pre contest, especially the last 4-5 weeks, I tend to become extremely irritable and miserable. My ability to also go to sleep and stay as asleep also goes to shit, which makes everything worse with elevated cortisol levels and poor recovery.
I always assumed this was all mainly due to the diet and to a small degree due to the drugs. Like most others, I end up using the typical Test P/Tren A/Mast P as my injectables, with some orals towards the end, namely Var and Winstrol.
However recently I started a cut with just 150mg Test Prop and 150MG NPP EOD. I am pretty damn close to contest shape, and I feel completely fine. Obviously there is a degree of fatigue, but I have no issues with sleep and most importatnly I am not in that constant "miserable/short fused state" that most of tend to get pre contest all day long. This led me to believe that the drugs have a much higher contribution to this shitty feeling than I had previously assumed.
Now I understanding that Tren and Mast are a must for some, but I am a classic competitor at my weight limit, so as long as I can maintain my lean tissue throughout the cut and get super hard/dry, then I am good.
First, I wanted to know if anyone else has experienced something similar to this? Second, what would you guys say would be my best option for AAS for the last 4-6 weeks assuming I want to avoid most androgenic AAS.
I am completely fine with NPP/TEST P until the 4-6 weeks point, but I have to drop NPP at 4 weeks outish due to the minor water retention, and add in some other anabolic agents and cosmetic AAS.
I am personally thinking, Anavar, Proviron and Winstrol would be the best stack.
Tren is obviously highly androgenic, so that's a no go.
Can anyone chime in to the androgenicity of Var, Proviron, Winstrol, Primo and Mast P? I've looked at the charts, but from what I am told they don't really mean much?
I've noticed that pre contest, especially the last 4-5 weeks, I tend to become extremely irritable and miserable. My ability to also go to sleep and stay as asleep also goes to shit, which makes everything worse with elevated cortisol levels and poor recovery.
I always assumed this was all mainly due to the diet and to a small degree due to the drugs. Like most others, I end up using the typical Test P/Tren A/Mast P as my injectables, with some orals towards the end, namely Var and Winstrol.
However recently I started a cut with just 150mg Test Prop and 150MG NPP EOD. I am pretty damn close to contest shape, and I feel completely fine. Obviously there is a degree of fatigue, but I have no issues with sleep and most importatnly I am not in that constant "miserable/short fused state" that most of tend to get pre contest all day long. This led me to believe that the drugs have a much higher contribution to this shitty feeling than I had previously assumed.
Now I understanding that Tren and Mast are a must for some, but I am a classic competitor at my weight limit, so as long as I can maintain my lean tissue throughout the cut and get super hard/dry, then I am good.
First, I wanted to know if anyone else has experienced something similar to this? Second, what would you guys say would be my best option for AAS for the last 4-6 weeks assuming I want to avoid most androgenic AAS.
I am completely fine with NPP/TEST P until the 4-6 weeks point, but I have to drop NPP at 4 weeks outish due to the minor water retention, and add in some other anabolic agents and cosmetic AAS.
I am personally thinking, Anavar, Proviron and Winstrol would be the best stack.
Tren is obviously highly androgenic, so that's a no go.
Can anyone chime in to the androgenicity of Var, Proviron, Winstrol, Primo and Mast P? I've looked at the charts, but from what I am told they don't really mean much?