Bad News for Deca users

[Thor]

Read this.
Nandrolone eleven times more damaging to blood vessels than testosterone

 

[weltweite]

Here is another one on Deca lowering the immune system
Deca-use may hide tuberculosis

Nandrolone decanoate neutralises the production of interferon-gamma. This is the protein in charge of the immune cells that function as the first-line defence when pathogens like M. tuberculosis try to infect the body. Interferon-gamma also stimulates cells to produce more adenosine deaminase – which is the biomarker that doctors look for as a sign of TB.

 

[Stiffy]

Maybe that's why I got the shingles after my first 20 week cycle of Nan. Lucky for me it was a very mild case. I just had a small spot on my abdomen.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Another reason

I tell guys NEVER USE DECA............

 

[Power Juicer]

I read that it can cause liver tumors.

 

[mature muscle]

well guys if you look at it they all come with a price. they tell you tren if vary harsh. in a low does i love the stuff but it probably is not that good for you.EQ has its draw backs also.so whats left. for me i cant touch anything related to primo or masteron.just cripples me.so in the end they have been telling us that AAS are not good for you so its basically an old story.

 

[muscledoc1]

Interesting info...

 

[AWN2004]

I tell guys NEVER USE DECA............

I concur Phil...big time.

 

[New_Mass]

well guys if you look at it they all come with a price. they tell you tren if vary harsh. in a low does i love the stuff but it probably is not that good for you.EQ has its draw backs also.so whats left. for me i cant touch anything related to primo or masteron.just cripples me.so in the end they have been telling us that AAS are not good for you so its basically an old story.

well said,
you guys are funny

 

[KTap]

Very interesting read..makes me think twice about trying deca

 

[Ruhlfreak55]

I tell guys NEVER USE DECA............

I concur Phil...big time.

were you guys already aware of what this article elucidated or are there other reasons?
I feel that the body can recover from just about anything....but i wont be running any deca 800 cycles like i was considering.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

Emeric /Serrano warned me about Deca years ago......

 

[mature muscle]

were you guys already aware of what this article elucidated or are there other reasons?
I feel that the body can recover from just about anything....but i wont be running any deca 800 cycles like i was considering.

you have to remember none of these drugs were designed to be used in such high doses.and the study clearly stress heavy doses for long periods of time. 200 mgs a wk also works just fine. it might be a better way to go. and it will cut down on the chances of a negative outcome.

 

[Ruhlfreak55]

you have to remember none of these drugs were designed to be used in such high doses.and the study clearly stress heavy doses for long periods of time. 200 mgs a wk also works just fine. it might be a better way to go. and it will cut down on the chances of a negative outcome.

yea the long periods of time thing is why all the deca i have isn't now in the trash lol....(nah i wouldn't freak out that bad)....

so then in terms of a bulker next time around what is a good cycle without deca....only bulkers i've ever run thus far have been either just test and an oral kick or add in deca. Bulk on tren? if you bulk on EQ (or take it at all for that matter) you have to run it forever and a day...

 

[emeric delczeg]

Read this.
Nandrolone eleven times more damaging to blood vessels than testosterone

I will like to add: heart, cardiovascular system, and circulatory sytem damiges.
(haemoglobin related disorders, thrombosis, hypertension,

 

[Ness]

yea the long periods of time thing is why all the deca i have isn't now in the trash lol....(nah i wouldn't freak out that bad)....

so then in terms of a bulker next time around what is a good cycle without deca....only bulkers i've ever run thus far have been either just test and an oral kick or add in deca. Bulk on tren? if you bulk on EQ (or take it at all for that matter) you have to run it forever and a day...

Please, tell me why you think you need anything more than test gain muscle?

 

[dabeast75]

yep...

well guys if you look at it they all come with a price. they tell you tren if vary harsh. in a low does i love the stuff but it probably is not that good for you.EQ has its draw backs also.so whats left. for me i cant touch anything related to primo or masteron.just cripples me.so in the end they have been telling us that AAS are not good for you so its basically an old story.

I was about to say the same. Every single steroid comes with unavoidable side effects. How badly we are fucking ourselves up is dependant on dosages and for how many years on. Even Anavar messes with your lipids, and the relatively mild EQ raises blood pressure. Tren causes prostate issues. And the article on Deca is clear enough.

That steroids mess with your immune system is also a known fact and nothing new. Every time I am off cycle I wind up catching the flu or something of that sort. So the bottom line is, thats the price we pay for using that shit.

 

[Ruhlfreak55]

Please, tell me why you think you need anything more than test gain muscle?

I'm not under the impression you NEED anything more, but there are things that work in synergy to produce a larger effect than test alone i believe

 

[Ness]

YES

I'm not under the impression you NEED anything more, but there are things that work in synergy to produce a larger effect than test alone i believe

Like having good genetics, right?

 

[Ruhlfreak55]

Like having good genetics, right?

fine i'll quit arguing genetics....not like i got the short end of that stick anyway....people tell me quite often that I have awesome genetics. so whatever, i'll quit arguing that