Bad news from doctor

Geoffke · Feb 26, 2005

6 months ago I did a bloodtest, and my freetestosterone
was low, very low.

I did a few cycles a few years ago.
But last year I began a cycle and stopped in the 4the week without
doing pct. This was a big mistake I think
But my doctor said the low testosterone was no big deal.
So a few months ago I did some clomidtherapie on my own.

Now, I have morningerections, my libido is high, I'm horny all the time,
I got absolutely no erectionsproblems with my girlfriend.

A few days a go I did an other bloodtest and I got a call from the doctor.
Fuck... my free testosterone is very very low

I'm only 22 and I think I fucked up my htpa for lifetime.
I have to go to the hospital to get more intense therapie.

Pfff, stupid roids

Skip · Feb 26, 2005

I doubt it. To say your htpa is fucked for life because of 4 weeks of gear is pushing it just a little.

Skip

Geoffke · Feb 26, 2005

My freetestosterone was 8 and the minimum for my age is 12.
So I'm below minimum

I hope I recover

johnnyboy · Feb 26, 2005

Sorry to hear that, but I find it hard to believe that your screwed for life. What was your 4 week cycle? Try taking your blood to another lab, just to get another look at it. Because if you are able to perform sexually then you should have plenty of juices flowing. Best wishes.

Johnnyboy

Big A · Feb 26, 2005

Geoffke said:
My freetestosterone was 8 and the minimum for my age is 12.
So I'm below minimum

I hope I recover

How do you know that you didn't have low test levels BEFORE the steroids?

jerrywear · Feb 26, 2005

Big A said:
How do you know that you didn't have low test levels BEFORE the steroids?

i wanted to ask the same thing

rAJJIN · Feb 26, 2005

exactly

sometimes things just happen to people...
I think everyone is to quik to instantly point the finger at anabolics
in a LOT of sitiuations..
I have the flew- must be the roids
Tired all the time- must be the roids
dick just wont get up- damn roids
almost had to smash this guy today- roidrage

I just think the bad side effects are over-rated
and people dont realize the same shit happens to 'normal people'

alpha-longhorn · Feb 26, 2005

i think the problem is that you've always had low testosterone, even before any steroid usage.. No reason why at age 22, and after months of off-cycle your natural t hasn't restored itself.. You never did any bloodwork before the roids did you?

JETHRO TULL · Feb 26, 2005

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!

LIKE THE OTHER FELLAS MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS POSTS. YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN LOW TO BEGIN WITH OR YOU'LL RECOVER.

dragonfire101 · Feb 26, 2005

br0, I wouldnt worry about it when I was 21 the doctors told me I was infertile after they ran 3 semen anlysis.Long story why they were done. One came up as only like 1,000 active sperm. Below 200,000 was consisder infertile. 2 years later my girl became pregnant. I went to the doc and i was fertile then. So i doubt yout TEST levels are life long. Your body cycles through changes and sometimes they are 1-2 year long changes.

Geoffke · Feb 26, 2005

I could be that I had a low test before juicing.
But what I not understand is, I'm so fucking horny all day,
I got erections every 5 minutes... lolz and my testlevels are below
minimum?
Strange.

A few months ago I did a test and my testlevel was also very low, so
the testresult is correct I guess.

Actually I'm very glad my libido is ok and I have a normal sexlife.
But I'm feeling alway tired and sometimes I'm feeling depressed and
want to cry or something lolz. Damn.

But some hrt with 100mg test a week isn't the end of the world..
maybe I will like it

but offcourse I will wait and see what happens, I hope I will recover in a few months. I sure hope so

alpha-longhorn · Feb 26, 2005

Geoffke said:
I'm feeling depressed and
want to cry or something lolz. Damn.

LOL damn bro! i would solve that problem imediately if I felt like crying all the time.. ya pansy! haha jk

Conan21 · Feb 27, 2005

I talked to a doctor at the gym about this the other day. He said unless it was very young when you started age really doesn't have anything to do with it shutting you down and not being able to achieve high normal levels. so if you were 19 or so. that might not have been too bad. most people would just say that its not necessary at that age which is why its not recommended.

so the question is how much were taking in these cycles? and how easy is it to permanantly down-regulate your natural test?? I'd like to know more information on this as well.

why did you get your test checked if you had no suspicions that it was messed up?

Geoffke · Feb 27, 2005

I started at 19 years old.
Back then my sexdrive was normal, and test levels were also normal.
I did 500mg of test enanth and deca at 400mg for 10 weeks.
I did some dianabol to frontload at 40mg/d.

For 1 time I only waited 3 weeks without pct and then did another 10week
cycle.
After that I rested 10 weeks and back on.
After the last cycle, after pct my sexdrive was zero.
But my sexdrive came back slowly after a couple months.

Last september I started a cycle with test enanth and equipose but
I stopped in the 4the week because the equipose mades me crazy

I didn't do pct.
In november I did a bloodtest for my allery and that's when the test levels
were low, minimal.
I did pct with clomid.
I had an insane sexdrive on clomid, and I still have that strange high sexdrive
today.
So I thought my test levels were fine.
So now 3 months after my pct my test levels were below minimal.

My blood was taken in the evening, I had sex a couple times this day and
was feeling tired;
I'm also on a very strict diet (cutting) and was feeling so hungry.

Don't know if that can mess up my levels.
What do you'll think?

Dave_19 · Feb 27, 2005

Geoffke said:
I started at 19 years old.
Back then my sexdrive was normal, and test levels were also normal.
I did 500mg of test enanth and deca at 400mg for 10 weeks.
I did some dianabol to frontload at 40mg/d.

For 1 time I only waited 3 weeks without pct and then did another 10week
cycle.
After that I rested 10 weeks and back on.
After the last cycle, after pct my sexdrive was zero.
But my sexdrive came back slowly after a couple months.

Last september I started a cycle with test enanth and equipose but
I stopped in the 4the week because the equipose mades me crazy
I didn't do pct.
In november I did a bloodtest for my allery and that's when the test levels
were low, minimal.
I did pct with clomid.
I had an insane sexdrive on clomid, and I still have that strange high sexdrive
today.
So I thought my test levels were fine.
So now 3 months after my pct my test levels were below minimal.

My blood was taken in the evening, I had sex a couple times this day and
was feeling tired;
I'm also on a very strict diet (cutting) and was feeling so hungry.

Don't know if that can mess up my levels.
What do you'll think?

Dont forget,
you can have a very low test count / sex drive naturaly! thats why human grade test exist for rx besides being over the hill. Thats a very likely factor with all this, I can tell you personally my sex drive crashes pretty bad way longer then nomraly when I get off 4-5 months

Muraco · Feb 27, 2005

Don't worry too much, bro. I started cycling at 19, like you did. I'm 40 now and still doing big cycles and horny as hell...on or off! Just keep getting tests done at your normal intervals and you'll be ok.

mark86 · Feb 27, 2005

hey Geoff

>>I started at 19 years old.
Back then my sexdrive was normal, and test levels were also normal.
I did 500mg of test enanth and deca at 400mg for 10 weeks.
I did some dianabol to frontload at 40mg/d.

For 1 time I only waited 3 weeks without pct and then did another 10week
cycle.
After that I rested 10 weeks and back on.
After the last cycle, after pct my sexdrive was zero.
But my sexdrive came back slowly after a couple months.

Last september I started a cycle with test enanth and equipose but
I stopped in the 4the week because the equipose mades me crazy
I didn't do pct.
In november I did a bloodtest for my allery and that's when the test levels
were low, minimal.
I did pct with clomid.
I had an insane sexdrive on clomid, and I still have that strange high sexdrive
today.
So I thought my test levels were fine.
So now 3 months after my pct my test levels were below minimal.

My blood was taken in the evening, I had sex a couple times this day and
was feeling tired;
I'm also on a very strict diet (cutting) and was feeling so hungry.

Don't know if that can mess up my levels.
What do you'll think?
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As I am now, you'll never be
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What type of clomid cycle did you use to get your sex drive back? I may try it too!

Geoffke · Feb 27, 2005

mark86 said:
>>I started at 19 years old.
Back then my sexdrive was normal, and test levels were also normal.
I did 500mg of test enanth and deca at 400mg for 10 weeks.
I did some dianabol to frontload at 40mg/d.

For 1 time I only waited 3 weeks without pct and then did another 10week
cycle.
After that I rested 10 weeks and back on.
After the last cycle, after pct my sexdrive was zero.
But my sexdrive came back slowly after a couple months.

Last september I started a cycle with test enanth and equipose but
I stopped in the 4the week because the equipose mades me crazy
I didn't do pct.
In november I did a bloodtest for my allery and that's when the test levels
were low, minimal.
I did pct with clomid.
I had an insane sexdrive on clomid, and I still have that strange high sexdrive
today.
So I thought my test levels were fine.
So now 3 months after my pct my test levels were below minimal.

My blood was taken in the evening, I had sex a couple times this day and
was feeling tired;
I'm also on a very strict diet (cutting) and was feeling so hungry.

Don't know if that can mess up my levels.
What do you'll think?
__________________
As you are now, I once was.
As I am now, you'll never be
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

What type of clomid cycle did you use to get your sex drive back? I may try it too!

day 1: 300mg
day 1-10: 100mg/ed
day 11-21: 50mg/ed

Mr Pickles · Feb 27, 2005

G,

are you having any psychological stress in your life? girl problems? money? job stress? something just eating away you constantly?

a few years ago i was having school issues, dealing with depression, some family shit, major money issues, and some upcoming jail time..... when i was in jail of course the other problems didnt stop but i wasnt able to keep afloat or do anything about them.... so the stress levels just went up (plus being in jail doenst exactly help when your cellies are mostly all violent crimimals)... so yeah, i was stressing for quite a period of time... months....

when i got out... boners.. ha, nope, thing of the past... gym? lifted like a girl scout.... no movtivation, no noting.... Dr. said my test levels were rock bottom.... and that all the psychological stress was affecting me physically.... big time too...

could be something similar too

i was 22 and never did a cycle so that was not the issue at all

the major stressors for me at that time was:
1) wasnt doing good in school... didnt know what to do, in over my head
2)knowing i had to go to jail... had to tell family and i knew how'd dissappointed and most of all, ashamed they'd be... that killed me
3)i had a warrant for almost 2 years before i turned myself in.... i was constantly looking over my shoulder and paranoid... not a way to live
4) dead fucking broke... i was hungry and trying to get all the food i needed was like a circus act (of course i was eating but not paying my other bills when it came down to that... did go hungry for 2 weeks when my electricity was shut off

)
5)some other legal repurcussions that i just dont wanna talk about

so yeah... all that was running through my head all day long, every damn day... just eating away at me like water does to mountains.... the shit just got to me.... after it beat me up mentaly, it got to me physically....

something to look into bro