BBers in the USA seem bigger/freakier than other countries

[ConanX]

Buselmo got banned (not sure why, he is occasionally on GB), i believe this is the thread

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...d-2010-ifbb-world-amateur-overall-winner.html

Awesome thread! I think Buselmo got banned for the one we do not speak of on this forum lol mr 15 don't remember but he was an awesome member.

 

[ErnieTaylor]

Buselmo got banned (not sure why, he is occasionally on GB), i believe this is the thread

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...d-2010-ifbb-world-amateur-overall-winner.html

That thread is crazy! Great insight....Thanks for linking to it!

 

[Elvia1023]

I like the big and moderately bloated look... not silly bloated like you see alot. From what I have read I think most guys would rather look like the guy posted on Buselmo's thread or other Arab bodybuilders. But sure many want to be as big as possible and that is fine too. It is programmed into alot of people from a young age.

From what I have seen it is simply down to the obvious answers. Many bodybuilders in eastern europe and asia hate testosterone... they use minimal amounts. Lots of anabolics. Lots of stimulants and fat burners. A totally different work enthic in the gym... they would call many US bodybuilders lazy. Bigdaddybone (and I thought my username was strange ) summed it up perfectly. They value symmetry, aesthetics and conditioning above other things... but sure size comes into it too... it is bodybuilding. I much prefer their look... but I guess something he many of us whats as to be as big as possible.

 

[Lenny]

In the us there is way more access to different drugs and higher quality drugs... but that makes no difference what so ever.... its your positive thinking that gets that extra size when you American

LOL, I guess I should have said your only as big as the dose you take

So, I guess that is why there is so many GINORMOUS, RIPPED bodybuilders walking the American soils Now, only if they trained and ate like bodybuilders

Again, just messing around fella's, it's Friday:headbang:

But, honestly Buselmo always had a good perspective on this topic.

Time to go watch some BBall!

 

[thatbloke]

Well, we don't all have access to the same drugs. Australia, for instance has a hell of a customs that is extremely anal about what comes in. So, for them, it'd be harder to get gear than us in the US

agree, its a big factor

Makes you wonder how Lee P gets all his then. Oh wait, I forgot, he only uses 1 mL a week...forget I said anything.

lee moved overseas wen he got his pro card, he turned into a monster then

he also has a few prescriptions

 

[BigChef]

agree, its a big factor



lee moved overseas wen he got his pro card, he turned into a monster then

he also has a few prescriptions

Wasnt he was on deca when he was 17?

 

[NZRABBIT]

To the aussie boys

do you think those that live in Oz at pro level or close to that level pay what you have to for GH... year round?

Also how many BBers in the US v the rest of the world... I'm talking about BB wannabees as well... I bet it's something like 10:1 (US v world).

 

[saps]

Yeah I don't that's true at all. There are more BB's from the USA period but on a percentage more big freaks are non USA. In the 90's Dorian, Nasser and Paul Dillet were the biggest freaks especially based on population percentage.
Even recent years Ruhl was bigger than ronnie.

 

[flogzero]

Culture matters too. Americans value being jacked more than most other countries. Walk around Europe or Japan and see how many huge dudes you see walking the streets compared to the US.

 

[thatbloke]

Wasnt he was on deca when he was 17?

lo 15 or 16 actually

do you think those that live in Oz at pro level or close to that level pay what you have to for GH... year round?

Also how many BBers in the US v the rest of the world... I'm talking about BB wannabees as well... I bet it's something like 10:1 (US v world).

i know GH on a prescription is 350$ for something like 30iu since i have a friend who got a script and never ended up using it becoz of the cost

theres no market for GH in aus yet, maybe one day wen we figure a way to get around customs and get it cheaper

Culture matters too. Americans value being jacked more than most other countries. Walk around Europe or Japan and see how many huge dudes you see walking the streets compared to the US.

very good point, i forgotten about this, most cultures (women) actually dont like the big muscle man look, its a very western society thing

 

[BigChef]

lo 15 or 16 actually



i know GH on a prescription is 350$ for something like 30iu since i have a friend who got a script and never ended up using it becoz of the cost

theres no market for GH in aus yet, maybe one day wen we figure a way to get around customs and get it cheaper



very good point, i forgotten about this, most cultures (women) actually dont like the big muscle man look, its a very western society thing

Dont forget the huge tongans and the maori's too....lol I know they are not westerners too but pacifiers

 

[TheTank]

Easy access to pharm grade HGH because the AIDS patients get it for free, and sell it. So there is a large amount of top quality HGH around for Bodybuilders to take. I imagine most of the US Pro Bodybuilders are taking Serostim that was originally intended for an AIDS patient.

 

[Ehren]

Yep, living in Europe of and on for about a decade, I'd say:
Less Test...Or none.
Lots of Deca and other anabolics.
Normal amount of cals, low carbs, bland food generally+some protein in the off-season.
Shit loads of Cardio
No access to GH unless you've got a "sponsor" for it. It's here and easy to get, but DAMNED expensive. So even 5iu's a day would break most wallets.

And they like to come in SHREDDED. Most stay closer to it in the offseason.
Oh, and just realized, I don't know anyone here on "TRT" year round. They cycle a lot, but take breaks without any drugs at all, just normal PCT drugs.

 

[NPCS FINEST]

Buselmo was one hell of a dude.....I miss his threads and post!! I really wish he would be let back to post here. I respect the mods and Big A and its their call but he brought alot of good to the board and helped me add some serious muscle to my chest in the past 6-8 months!!

I think all the guys that he posted pics of look better then any current pro thats over the contest weight of 240 lbs. IMO ...I said it before many times...I dont like the look of the current top IFBB pros....I dont like the freaky mass monsters....Give me the Shawn Ray look, The Dave Henery,Flex Wheel,Kevin, Dexter Jackson....and alot of the 202 lbs guys.

Ronnie pulled the mass monster look off much better then Kai and Jay do....and Phil has a nice look to him..altho I think a few more years he is going to be freaky freak big like the best of them with the bloated out 9 months prego look

 

[Crowler]

NASCAR vs Formula 1

US Hockey vs European hockey.

Rock and Roll vs European pop

Red Neck vs Refined EU metrosexual

US Muscle Cars vs European high performance cars.

Big brute strength Americans vs smaller more aesthetic Europeans.

Give me a Super Charged Viper and old time hockey any day

Or a jacked up mud truck blasting out lynard skynard. :headbang:

 

[BigDaddyBone]

Bigdaddybone (and I thought my username was strange )

That is a really good thread, definitely worth the hour or so it takes to read it.

A couple of points I forgot, but saw when rereading it:

-They have a bunch of weight classes, so these guys will try to lose 3-5 pounds a week...sure they'll lose some muscle in the process, but not that much, and will end up SHREDDED. It doesn't matter what they end up weighing in the end, since they'll have a class to compete in anyways.

-Low/no fat...definitely no whole eggs, no EVOO, none of that. The last month out they cut out all sodium & only boil their food.

-Crazy water depletions...like no water starting 5 days out of the contest, & diuretic use the week leading up to the contest

-"Better drugs" doesn't really explain it...EQ, tren & mast all come from thailand UGLs

There's plenty more in there that I forgot to mention, but this really stood out...the attached picture is a competitor 6 WEEKS OUT!!!! He looks better than most competitors on the day of the contest! ...So that really says it all I feel.

Attached is a competitor 6 weeks out from a contest...6 WEEKS OUT!!!! short of holding water, he looks better than many competitors do on the day of their contest! ...so I think that really says it all about these guys.

 

[hotnuts]

So, little to no test seems pretty conclusive but the sexual sides are something that I could never deal with but if it wasn't for that I would use little to no test and run a cycle just to see the results it yields. I don't like holding water or looking bloated either. I don't have any desire to run ED meds.

 

[Bio]

I don't think it's the American bodybuilders that are necessarily the biggest....Some are bigger, some are smaller, and some fall somewhere in the middle! Like another member said, look at Dorian, Nasser, Ruhl, Wolf, etc. It's the American contests, judging to be more precise, that set the standards! Bodybuilder A is the favorite, but bodybuilder B comes into the show with more lean mass...Not necessarily as symmetrical, but the judges still reward him for it by giving him 1st place!! Now the new standard is set and this scenario repeats itself year after year and these guys just keep getting bigger and bigger!!!

 

[izan]

jesus, that mohammed touri looks incredible.

 

[TheTank]

As far as the Middle Eastern vs. American BBs go... I think the Americans are lazy in comparison.

The American BB is more likely to rely on huge amounts of food and drugs, while training just enough, loads of HGH keep him from becoming an obese fatass, little to no cardio, little worry about eating clean most of the year. Takes more supplements, protein powders, shakes, junk food.

The Middle Eastern BB is taking higher dose of Anabolics, little to no HGH most of the year, Training much higher volume and for very long periods of time. He is mostly eating whole foods in the form of Lamb, Beef, and Chicken. Intense cardio, even in the "off season"

For the middle eastern BBs Bodybuilding is still something new and exciting. For them it is like it was back in the Golden days of Bodybuilding with Arnold etc. I can gaurantee that the Middle Eastern bodybuilders are having more fun than the American bodybuilders, who have begun to see bodybuilding as more of a chore over the years. For the Middle east BBs bodybuilding is probably something very interesting and away from the mainstream. It seems to me that there is more of a brotherhood between the middle eastern BBs also.

Maybe because they are having so much fun with bodybuilding, and have so much passion for it, that is the reason they are building such great physiques?