BD or QV?

[ohio9]

which do you prefer?

BD or QV?

 

[maldorf]

Neither, but I was using those back in the late 90s. I think ownership has changed? Back then both of them caused bad pain at injection site and didnt seem to be particulary potent.

I eventually went homebrew and boy was it better, too risky now though IMO.

 

[thehuge]

BD, been many years though

 

[E.J.]

I think IP is producing both of these labels. I could be mistaken. Perhaps a loyal IP customer could inform u better. But if they're coming from the same outfit I'd say the product inside is the same, just diff labels. I could be way off, I'm not an IP customer but I've seen the list and that's my take on things. Either way ip seems to be a great sponsor who cares about his customers and members of this board. He's currently trying to help a member pay for a test involving his heart. Stand up guy IMO.

 

[maldorf]

I think IP is producing both of these labels. I could be mistaken. Perhaps a loyal IP customer could inform u better. But if they're coming from the same outfit I'd say the product inside is the same, just diff labels. I could be way off, I'm not an IP customer but I've seen the list and that's my take on things. Either way ip seems to be a great sponsor who cares about his customers and members of this board. He's currently trying to help a member pay for a test involving his heart. Stand up guy IMO.

Yeah, he seems like a really good guy and dont hear too many complaints which is hard to do in that business.

 

[E.J.]

Very true

 

[airagee23]

Neither

 

[growth]

if it comes from same guy i know its the same or what it says it is and there good dvds and i have the highest respect for him for many years

 

[ajdos]

QV left lasting impressions on my ass, literally.

 

[MightyJohn]

I think they are the same, just labeled different these days

 

[thebigguy84]

Denkall,BD and QV all the EXACT SAME! Back in the day they where separate companies. IP Uses their counterfeit labels on their products. IP makes good quality oils from what I have heard.

 

[jm425]

If you're talking about the bd and qv from back in the day, they were both very potent. Made some of my best gains off those back in the day. I don't know what was in qv, but the shit made my ass and delts knot up and hurt.

 

[pinpoint5]

I have been using BD for two years, and i really like it. Super cheap for me. I have also used QV, but not for long periods of time. It's good too. BD injections are pain free (supposedly they do not use BA or BB).

 

[NYCjuice]

not impressed by either

who is IP?

 

[muscle_n_blood]

IP carries both and they work. I ran the old QV out of Mexico quite a few years back. QV, Brovel, Tornel, Ttokyo, Denkall... anybody here use Loeffler's Reforvit-B?

 

[Simpllyhuge]

What does QV stand for? I hope not quality vet?

 

[ohio9]

thanks all, this was very helpful. I was referring to what is available now from our sponsors.

 

[Moe1ron]

I'd go MLG

 

[dudeface]

BD has the 25ml which is nice.

 

[bulldog2039]

I've ran both from a sponsor here good quality and no complaints