Benefits of Boron

[maldorf]

We need Mr. Clark up in here! Where is he when we need him?

 

[Knight9]

LMAO... I have never seen this information presented like this. Thank you for sharing this. Now I know why my HRT doctor questioned me about diet and supplements when my free testosterone came back on labs as > 40 and 'out of range' running 200 mgs a week as prescribed. Total test was in range, but admittedly high in range.

My only 'supplement' is 12.5mgs of stanozolol (50mg tab split 4 ways) daily. Or sometimes 10mgs if I have lower dosed tabs. I have never had elevated kidney/liver panels or lipids running this dose even when I've done so for months.

Yes but if you are running real winstrol your lipids are likely taking the hit.

 

[goback2013]

I remember taking Boron back in the late 80s/early 90s. Didn't do a thing for me.

Right. I bought some boron from the back of a flex magazine. Did zilch for me.
Now vanadyl sulfate on the other hand certainly gave me wicked pumps.

 

[Knight9]

Right. I bought some boron from the back of a flex magazine. Did zilch for me.
Now vanadyl sulfate on the other hand certainly gave me wicked pumps.

What did your bloodwork say before and during boron usage?

It's funny how science dictates what it will do in a human, but people say it didn't do shit for them. Were you expecting AAS type results?

 

[maldorf]

What did your bloodwork say before and during boron usage?

It's funny how science dictates what it will do in a human, but people say it didn't do shit for them. Were you expecting AAS type results?

I didnt feel a thing with it. Nothing, was like i was taking a placebo.

Maybe it might make a difference for a guy if he's on exogenous testosterone. I was completely natural and about 19 years old.

 

[swm1972]

Yes but if you are running real winstrol your lipids are likely taking the hit.

That hasn't been my experience running such a low dose in the past. Most recent blood work was about 3 months ago and I was on the low dose winny. I have full faith in my sources (most of them are here, but some are not) and nothing else would explain that level of free testosterone except for maybe proviron. I will see if I can find my PDF's the doctor sends me for my last several and see if I can see a difference from when I was taking them, and what I wasnt.

I mean are they affected? Possibly. But they are still within what the doctor considers a healthy range in both HDL and LDL. Would they be better if not using that low dose? Perhaps. I was off everything except hrt for 6 months then came off everything (including HRT) for 12 months while traveling abroad. So I have at least 2 blood tests (one during hrt only, and a baseline test hormone free before starting back up) for comparison. I will fire up my email and search for old doctor emails and see if I can find those numbers.

If free testosterone is truly where the primary anabolic action comes from and overall levels aren't a significant factor in growth, my HRT levels are running 2 to 3 times (based even at 40ish, since we don't have any more info than greater than 40) then most of my doctors patients are seeing. He told me 20 is considered a very good number for most of his patients. Of course many of them are fat old guys leading sedentary lifestyles. I guess what I am trying to say is, if my free test is equal to what others not adding something to deal with the SHGB are experiencing running much higher doses, I figure I am ahead of the game even if lipids are marginally impacted. Agree?