Best compound/supplement for workout pump

[Elvia1023]

how much slin u take pre-workout?

I have experimented with different amounts. I have gone up to I think it was 15iu humulin-r pre workout (20iu post workout). The most I would do of that is 15iu now. My mind is playing tricks on me as in recent times I tried a higher dosed slin experiment using a Milos protocol. Yeah I am mistaken as I definitely used humalog so it will be the above amounts but humalog. I kept the pre workout dose at 15iu as even at that dose I could feel a bit off so didn't want to risk using more as I am very sensitive so even with a load of carbs it would be unnessary for me. I have used those amounts with humlin-r too.

I think humalog has the edge for pre workout slin but now the most I would do now would be about 8iu. For the purposes of pumps even small doses would do... 4-8iu. A good meal in you and 6-10iu with 100g intra carbs and lots of water and you are gtg

 

[xman280]

I have experimented with different amounts. I have gone up to I think it was 15iu humulin-r pre workout (20iu post workout). The most I would do of that is 15iu now. My mind is playing tricks on me as in recent times I tried a higher dosed slin experiment using a Milos protocol. Yeah I am mistaken as I definitely used humalog so it will be the above amounts but humalog. I kept the pre workout dose at 15iu as even at that dose I could feel a bit off so didn't want to risk using more as I am very sensitive so even with a load of carbs it would be unnessary for me. I have used those amounts with humlin-r too.

I think humalog has the edge for pre workout slin but now the most I would do now would be about 8iu. For the purposes of pumps even small doses would do... 4-8iu. A good meal in you and 6-10iu with 100g intra carbs and lots of water and you are gtg

I ve never tried it preworkout...meanwhile - for the synergy effect without getting fat ...how many IU's GH u take alongside with lets say every 5 iu's of slin, I mean safe - without worrying of gaining fat.... cus 15-20 iu's of slin with lets say 2.5 iu's of GH doesnt make much sense..?!

 

[Elvia1023]

I ve never tried it preworkout...meanwhile - for the synergy effect without getting fat ...how many IU's GH u take alongside with lets say every 5 iu's of slin, I mean safe - without worrying of gaining fat.... cus 15-20 iu's of slin with lets say 2.5 iu's of GH doesnt make much sense..?!

Most of the time I don't take any hgh as it makes me too tired. I have a load in the fridge that is great but I can't function on even tiny doses of it.

If you use slin when lean with high sensitivity the chances of gaining fat are minimized. Take it pre workout and you will be training hard when it is active so again the chances of fat gain are minimized. Take a sensible amount of carbs with loads of aminos and glutamine and again the chances are minimized. Combine all those things and you are not going to gain any fat on slin.

The more you use it in the day the higher the chances of fat gain especially if you are not active. Obviously dose is the key factor and 2iu with most meals of the day will help shuttle nutrients and there shouldn't be any/much fat gain. The higher the dose the more chance of fat gain. Plus guys overeat on slin as they are bulking so they will likely get fatter so overall calories are another obvious factor. Another huge factor are guys who aren't lean taking slin... they will just get fatter.

For anyone who does use hgh then any amount when dosed with slin will help matters. Even a low dose of 2iu combined with high (20iu) slin will help matters. I would personally not use more than 10iu slin in 1 injection and combine that with 2-5iu hgh. Synthetine is another great thing to run with slin especially pre workout. Slin helps shuttle the synthetine into the muscle cells and you will use fat as an energy source. Many guys on here even do fasted cardio using synthetine and a very small dose of slin (2iu). That 2iu slin is just enough to cause an insulin spike enabling the effective transportation of the synthetine into the muscle cell.

If you try slin pre workout definitely start low and build up. More is definitely not more when it comes to slin.

 

[xman280]

Most of the time I don't take any hgh as it makes me too tired. I have a load in the fridge that is great but I can't function on even tiny doses of it.

If you use slin when lean with high sensitivity the chances of gaining fat are minimized. Take it pre workout and you will be training hard when it is active so again the chances of fat gain are minimized. Take a sensible amount of carbs with loads of aminos and glutamine and again the chances are minimized. Combine all those things and you are not going to gain any fat on slin.

The more you use it in the day the higher the chances of fat gain especially if you are not active. Obviously dose is the key factor and 2iu with most meals of the day will help shuttle nutrients and there shouldn't be any/much fat gain. The higher the dose the more chance of fat gain. Plus guys overeat on slin as they are bulking so they will likely get fatter so overall calories are another obvious factor. Another huge factor are guys who aren't lean taking slin... they will just get fatter.

For anyone who does use hgh then any amount when dosed with slin will help matters. Even a low dose of 2iu combined with high (20iu) slin will help matters. I would personally not use more than 10iu slin in 1 injection and combine that with 2-5iu hgh. Synthetine is another great thing to run with slin especially pre workout. Slin helps shuttle the synthetine into the muscle cells and you will use fat as an energy source. Many guys on here even do fasted cardio using synthetine and a very small dose of slin (2iu). That 2iu slin is just enough to cause an insulin spike enabling the effective transportation of the synthetine into the muscle cell.

If you try slin pre workout definitely start low and build up. More is definitely not more when it comes to slin.

dude , I dont who you are in the bbing/ gear world, or never seen a pic of you, I do like to see every point of view and every experience from a legit person is highly appreciated by me, but somehow I m having trouble understanding from a scientific point of view,how come you gonna take slin and stay lean while bulking - meaning eating extra calories...I dont say you are wrong, but that s something new to me and I will have to try it..u use humalog or humilin for preworkout?...saying all that - I am an endo-mesomorphic type who gains weight even from a salad,figuratively speaking...i m not lean genetically, I m lean due to gear and clean food...

 

[TeknoViking]

pre workout slin with superdrol sipping on carbs/creatine mono/citruline while training.

 

[Elvia1023]

dude , I dont who you are in the bbing/ gear world, or never seen a pic of you, I do like to see every point of view and every experience from a legit person is highly appreciated by me, but somehow I m having trouble understanding from a scientific point of view,how come you gonna take slin and stay lean while bulking - meaning eating extra calories...I dont say you are wrong, but that s something new to me and I will have to try it..u use humalog or humilin for preworkout?...saying all that - I am an endo-mesomorphic type who gains weight even from a salad,figuratively speaking...i m not lean genetically, I m lean due to gear and clean food...

I am nothing special and don't compete. Here are some pics...

6ft 2 and about 240 here I think...

About 250 here...

Firstly everyones leanness is a by product of their diet. Sure drugs can only help an d some people are fucked genetically but for the most part guys who are not lean aren't eating optimally. I am not stating you won't gain any fat but it can be minimized. I have taken slin before and tightened up whilst getting fuller. Now if I am eating to grow big of course I would gain more fat especially if slin was present. It's about balance.

I guess we have to define what are you thinking of when you write "bulking". If you eat huge amounts of calories and add in 30iu slin you will probably put on tonnes of fat. If you eat just above maintenance with clean food only and train hard and add in the drugs then you can grow slowly with minimal fat accrual. There are many way up the mountain. Some guys prefer to blow up then cut later and others do it the best way of trying to gain solid tissue one bit at a time.

Your starting point is another major factor. A guy who is shredded and 7% bf who introduces slin and lot's of calories is going to blow up with mcuh less fat than someone who is 15% bf doing the same. There are 1001 variables. Although in simple terms insulin will make you store fat more easier so you have to be careful. Add insulin and lot's of calories and you will likely get much fatter. Dose and timing is vital as I highlighted in my other post.

 

[Capin]

Dauym JJ 100mg sub lig Adrol my head would explode!
Viagra or Citrulline Malate gives me a nice pump and lowers my high BP
The past few months I have been on MK-677 enhanced elevated IGF levels really are the key to great pumps.

 

[xman280]

I am nothing special and don't compete. Here are some pics...

6ft 2 and about 240 here I think...

About 250 here...

Firstly everyones leanness is a by product of their diet. Sure drugs can only help an d some people are fucked genetically but for the most part guys who are not lean aren't eating optimally. I am not stating you won't gain any fat but it can be minimized. I have taken slin before and tightened up whilst getting fuller. Now if I am eating to grow big of course I would gain more fat especially if slin was present. It's about balance.

I guess we have to define what are you thinking of when you write "bulking". If you eat huge amounts of calories and add in 30iu slin you will probably put on tonnes of fat. If you eat just above maintenance with clean food only and train hard and add in the drugs then you can grow slowly with minimal fat accrual. There are many way up the mountain. Some guys prefer to blow up then cut later and others do it the best way of trying to gain solid tissue one bit at a time.

Your starting point is another major factor. A guy who is shredded and 7% bf who introduces slin and lot's of calories is going to blow up with mcuh less fat than someone who is 15% bf doing the same. There are 1001 variables. Although in simple terms insulin will make you store fat more easier so you have to be careful. Add insulin and lot's of calories and you will likely get much fatter. Dose and timing is vital as I highlighted in my other post.

pretty good at 240 , but I guess u ll have to be at no more than 10% bf to use slin with no gh...looking at your pic - you can do that, I currently can too - but at the same time I gain weight real easy , even on a clean diet( I can stop all gear and easlily be 250 at 5'10, not lean, but still look like a weightlifter). I ve done slin with no gh 3 times a day many times , but never pre workout, I ll have to try it and see how I react.... should be cutting down pretty soon too, so i guess, it doesnt matter....I dont measure bf, I just judge by my abs - if they are visible or not...i have the weirdest physique ever, that s why I was doing powerlifting and strongman for years, and just now at 35 decided to care more about my look and health, but my joints are so thick - guys much smaller than me, look more muscular because of thin joints - elbows, wrists, knees... ughh...

 

[Elvia1023]

pretty good at 240 , but I guess u ll have to be at no more than 10% bf to use slin with no gh...looking at your pic - you can do that, I currently can too - but at the same time I gain weight real easy , even on a clean diet( I can stop all gear and easlily be 250 at 5'10, not lean, but still look like a weightlifter). I ve done slin with no gh 3 times a day many times , but never pre workout, I ll have to try it and see how I react.... should be cutting down pretty soon too, so i guess, it doesnt matter....I dont measure bf, I just judge by my abs - if they are visible or not...i have the weirdest physique ever, that s why I was doing powerlifting and strongman for years, and just now at 35 decided to care more about my look and health, but my joints are so thick - guys much smaller than me, look more muscular because of thin joints - elbows, wrists, knees... ughh...

Slin pre workout is my fav by far. I guess that's just because of the pumps and feeling in the gym. Every sey you feel like you are inflating more. You should really like it. Make sure you have an intra shake with aminos, glutamine, citrulline malate and carbs (I like vitargo or hbcd's but any fast carb is fine). You know all of this anyway but those 4 ingredients in your intra will really help matters. Let me know how you get on with it. What slin are you going to use?

 

[xman280]

Slin pre workout is my fav by far. I guess that's just because of the pumps and feeling in the gym. Every sey you feel like you are inflating more. You should really like it. Make sure you have an intra shake with aminos, glutamine, citrulline malate and carbs (I like vitargo or hbcd's but any fast carb is fine). You know all of this anyway but those 4 ingredients in your intra will really help matters. Let me know how you get on with it. What slin are you going to use?

only one I ever used is the one from walgreens - humulin r...i can get Humalog but never felt the need....

 

[thewizkid]

I have experimented with different amounts. I have gone up to I think it was 15iu humulin-r pre workout (20iu post workout). The most I would do of that is 15iu now. My mind is playing tricks on me as in recent times I tried a higher dosed slin experiment using a Milos protocol. Yeah I am mistaken as I definitely used humalog so it will be the above amounts but humalog. I kept the pre workout dose at 15iu as even at that dose I could feel a bit off so didn't want to risk using more as I am very sensitive so even with a load of carbs it would be unnessary for me. I have used those amounts with humlin-r too.

I think humalog has the edge for pre workout slin but now the most I would do now would be about 8iu. For the purposes of pumps even small doses would do... 4-8iu. A good meal in you and 6-10iu with 100g intra carbs and lots of water and you are gtg

when I was working with Milos the insulin gave me amazing pumps
but I don't use insulin anymore. Just because I am not trying to compete anymore, I don't want to bother. Plus the supplements ended up costing more than gear.
EAA, BCAA, peptopro, vitargo, cittruline, creatine, glutamine,


does anyone take cialis/viagra for pre-workout and then have trouble with ED after?
I never took it pre-workout but can online imagine if you used it too much that you'd probably have trouble getting it up without it

 

[jazilla]

I use 5g hydromax
10g citrulline
10g eaas
3g pink salt
5 mg cialis

 

[Knight9]

12g citrulline malate(Prejym and added raw)
8g Hydromax
10-20mg cialis e3d

Would like to try a bit of log and superdrol added in with some pink salt in the future.

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[jazilla]

12g citrulline malate(Prejym and added raw)
8g Hydromax
10-20mg cialis e3d

Would like to try a bit of log and superdrol added in with some pink salt in the future.

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And I thought mu hydromax and cit doses were high lol. How does 8g hydro work for yah? I know at 5g I can barely move the working muscle group

 

[thewizkid]

so today was the best pump I've had ever since starting to workout again (a couple weeks ago)

this is what I took
4000mg l-citrulline
proprietary blend of (taurine, glycerol 65% hydromax, ferula asafoetida extract)
2000mg arginine nitrate
1000mg agmatine sulfate

was from a supplement, also took 1 scoop BCAA from gaspari (amino last)
5g creatine gluconate
5g glutamine

if I remember correctly that's all
and also 10iu gh 2h before workout

no insulin
will be doing that from now on

 

[Bull_Nuts]

I like my pre-workout injectable test base 50mg, tren base 25mg dbol 25mg. Amazing pumps...back workouts are crippling with this injectable....gonna add 25mg drol the next time Imake it.

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[lntense]

Viagra/Cialis





Sometimes viagra gives me a little too much of a pump below the belt though..

 

[megarips250]

Whats the best compound or supplement you guys used for the best pump for your workout?

The type of pump that hurts to do another rep

And any other things that will give a good pump
i.e..
-preworkout carbs, type of carb, sugar, time before workout to consume
-how insulin affects the pump, high or low blood sugar during workout
-sodium/potassium/ minerals
-water intake
etc.

I've had great pumps in my back and legs before and always had trouble with my chest, arms and shoulders.
I just started working out again and the complete opposite happened
I am getting amazing pumps on my chest, arms and shoulders while my back and legs barely get one.

Current cycle
test 500mg/w
tren 200mg/w
eq 400mg/w
anadrol 75mg/day
clen 25mcg 3x a day (morning, pre, night)

gh 2iu before bed, 2iu morning

no insulin, no pre-workout (for some reason every time I take pre workout I get no pumps, currently either mr.hyde or mesomorph)

Insulin, Anadrol, test suspension, citrulline, ED Pills.

Believe it or not Syntheselen and Synthetine combined with Insulin has given me the best pumps and vascularity that i have ever had.

 

[bieberhole69]

cialis
citrulline
sodium (key, moreso when dieting)
insulin
dbol
TNE

Skin-tearing pumps.

 

[Love_to_Bodybuild]

I am nothing special and don't compete. Here are some pics...

6ft 2 and about 240 here I think...

About 250 here...

Nice and lean, great arms too. Lets see the back, upper legs, and calves

cialis
citrulline
sodium (key, moreso when dieting)
insulin
dbol
TNE

Skin-tearing pumps.

Cialis may work, not sure. Citrilline seems to work. agmatine, anabolics of course work, and sodium for sure esp when dieting hard when carbs are lower, keeps you fuller and more pumped look

Im really not chasing a pump so much right now as Im training in the 6-12 rep range . If I have some body parts that I cant train as heavy or for injury prevention like shoulders and arms, ill go for higher reps