Best home-made preworkout or intra workout drink mix?

[juiceball44]

sorry what is TN?

True nutrition

 

[KillerStack]

Intras often make me too nauseous, I take them maybe 30 minutes before to help it settle some and then a conservative dose. I have toughed it out plenty though, for many years, but if it impacts training intensity then it's all for nothing. Some might be able to stomach 2K calories during the workout, like I think homonunculus has mentioned.

Regarding EAAs, I think a balanced EAA ratio is important, not 7 grams of Lecine with 10 or 45mg of tryptophan and methionine. It's not an EAA in that case really. I haven't tried it but I saw Mike Arnold has a really good elite product imo and his write-up explains what I mentioned above, which I had thought even before reading it I have used JP's before as that is pretty balanced also. From memory Now Foods EAA looked good. A way to balance out a crappy ratio is to for example use 7 grams of your EAA of choice with maybe 7 grams of whey isolate or a hydro; this can also extend the protein synthesis induction by the EAAs as some study pointed out.

It's probably useless in the big picture, but now there are things like Leu-Leu Dipeptide, two lecines bonded, which sellers claim is more effective than reg leucine for an acute protein synthetic reaction. Just thought I'd mentioned it anyway

Salt or an electrolyte blend, a smallish dose of carbs, and plenty of water for best pumps.

 

[Heath82]

Intras often make me too nauseous, I take them maybe 30 minutes before to help it settle some and then a conservative dose. I have toughed it out plenty though, for many years, but if it impacts training intensity then it's all for nothing. Some might be able to stomach 2K calories during the workout, like I think homonunculus has mentioned.

Regarding EAAs, I think a balanced EAA ratio is important, not 7 grams of Lecine with 10 or 45mg of tryptophan and methionine. It's not an EAA in that case really. I haven't tried it but I saw Mike Arnold has a really good elite product imo and his write-up explains what I mentioned above, which I had thought even before reading it I have used JP's before as that is pretty balanced also. From memory Now Foods EAA looked good. A way to balance out a crappy ratio is to for example use 7 grams of your EAA of choice with maybe 7 grams of whey isolate or a hydro; this can also extend the protein synthesis induction by the EAAs as some study pointed out.

It's probably useless in the big picture, but now there are things like Leu-Leu Dipeptide, two lecines bonded, which sellers claim is more effective than reg leucine for an acute protein synthetic reaction. Just thought I'd mentioned it anyway

Salt or an electrolyte blend, a smallish dose of carbs, and plenty of water for best pumps.

2k calories during a workout? I’d puke too

 

[Lunita24]

Karbolyn is my go to and digest well

 

[Josefein421]

2k calories during a workout? I’d puke too

Scott has told some stories about the old school intra shakes. And that was back before waxy maize/karbolyn/HBCD

Drinking those Mass Gainer 2000 shakes while DC training…

 

[BamaCrazy]

Bcaas
Eaas
Glutamine
Protein isolate

^^ is what I use intra

Then before the workout I’ll consume quick acting carbs + l Citrulline + beta alinine + cialis

Man, those EEAs have a funky flavor. lol. Completely changed the flavor of my mix.

 

[Gunsmith]

sorry what is TN?

True Nutrition , Dante Trudel's company
You can get all your raw material there and in different flavors or unflavored

 

[Sectør]

Man, those EEAs have a funky flavor. lol. Completely changed the flavor of my mix.

Yeah the unflavored nutricost ones are god awful flavor wise

But their flavored ones are pretty decent. I do flavored EAAs, flavored BCAAS (amino energy), then the protein isolate is flavored too

You’d think combining 3 random flavors would be terrible but it’s actually not bad this way

This is the intra workout protein as well. Kind of like a juice flavor. By itself, not the best flavor. Combined with the others—it works

 

[BamaCrazy]

Yeah the unflavored nutricost ones are god awful flavor wise

But there flavored ones are pretty decent. I do flavored EAAs, flavored BCAAS (amino energy), then the protein isolate is flavored too

You’d think combining 3 random flavors would be terrible but it’s actually not bad this way
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I got the Bulk Supplements version and enough to last me long enough to learn to either love or hate the flavor. Oh well, I’ll throw something else in there to mellow it out some.

 

[Gunsmith]

I got the Bulk Supplements version and enough to last me long enough to learn to either love or hate the flavor. Oh well, I’ll throw something else in there to mellow it out some.

A citrus flavors helps the bitterness of the EAAs , that's why I like the orange powdered Gatorade. Pink lemonade crystal light works really well too

 

[KingOfSushi]

I got the Bulk Supplements version and enough to last me long enough to learn to either love or hate the flavor. Oh well, I’ll throw something else in there to mellow it out some.

I just add mio to my 35g and it’s fine

 

[tommyguns2]

Man, those EEAs have a funky flavor. lol. Completely changed the flavor of my mix.

Yeah, I use the peptopro from TN, and it is very bitter. But mixed with a flavored Karbolyn, it's manageable. I'll mix that with about 35-50g of the Karbolyn, 5-10g creatine, 10g glutamine.

I have not used the vegetable glycerin before. I'm interested to hear more about whether it made a big difference in workout pump, as I am slightly flat when running low dose reta and I train fasted.

Also, as I train fasted, I like to pin 500mg L-carnitine IM about 20-30 mins before training.

 

[psychor]

Everything unflavored from TN

EAAs , 10g Creatine , 10g Glutamine , 5g Citrulline malate , 50g orange powdered Gatorade , 30ml vegetable glycerin

Start sipping on my way to the gym and finish about 2/3 the way through training

I don't use any stimulants type pre workout , if im dragging ass that day I'll take an ECY stack 30-40 min before training

Where do you get the vegetable glycerin, like the one you can get from Walmart? Also do you make your own ECY stack or if not where do you get it "pre-made"? Thanks Gunsmith!

 

[Gunsmith]

Where do you get the vegetable glycerin, like the one you can get from Walmart? Also do you make your own ECY stack or if not where do you get it "pre-made"? Thanks Gunsmith!

I make my own ECY , caffeine and ephedrine from Walgreens and yohimbine from Amazon.
I also get the vegetable glycerin from Amazon for $20 a gallon
(LINK BELOW)

Amazon.com

 

[Biggerp73]

If you are eating a lot of protein before and after then your blood will already have “intra” aminos being released and saturated

All the OTC supps do next to nothing

Drinking carbs before and during training might not do much (compared to just putting those carbs in your other meals) but if your gonna do it just use dextrose or Gatorade or whatever is cheapest/easiest. No added benefit to fancy carbs

 

[Tomgrass]

I think simplicity is the key
Instant coffee mixed with isolate an hour before gym and during powerade with eaa glutamine and creatine. For somebody who is just a gymrat this is more then enough. Being honest we are miles ahead compare to regular guys who just workout.

 

[Killer.7]

I workout on an empty stomach firs thing in the AM these days - thats why im usually mixing karbolyn with some other ingredients and sip on it while i drive to the gym

 

[massephase]

Idk if this is normal for them but the (unflavored) EAAs I bought really taste like shit. I have to add liquid artificial sweetener or it is undrinkable.
I also mix the intraworkout myself.

 

[dimethyl11]

Does anyone train on an empty stomach except for a PWO drink?

I train fasted at 430am. Half scoop prewo, then my intra is:

50g dextrose
5g creatine
5g taurine
5g electrolytes
10g eaas

 

[juiceball44]

Idk if this is normal for them but the (unflavored) EAAs I bought really taste like shit. I have to add liquid artificial sweetener or it is undrinkable.
I also mix the intraworkout myself.

Yes by far the worst tasting raw supplement nothing else is even close