Best MASS cycle ever?

[FutureFreak]

Very interesting protocol FF. What do you suppose the gains have been for this hypothetical person?

248 - 268 lbs in 8 - 12 weeks , no change in BF %, well nothing that was noticed

FF

 

[Transformer]

gh 3-5ius ED...
SLIN - few times a week, 4 week blasts
npp,sustanon and suspension for 4 weeks...
tri test blend, tren and masteron... last 8weeks...
aramosin
hcg -500iu's twice a week whilst ON

off for 8-10weeks, blood work.. then re asses

 

[chris250]

I think 2 VERY crucial factors to making ANY aas work awesome is obvious here:

Quality GH dosed at whatever amount your budget allows.

Learning different ways to incorporate insulin that lets you gain mass, yet stay fairly lean.

If those 2 FACTORS are determined the AAS seem to always work---and work well.

For example -- Let's say the BB'er has quality GH, but can only afford 4 iu a day.

Let say --- He also has found humalin R + Humalog to agree with his body at 10iu of each product (20 iu total)

He runs something like this (hypothetical --

Instead of 4iu ED --- he runs 8 iu EOD post workout

He also runs humalin R 10 iu first thing in morning --> then 10iu humalog PRE W/O.

On the GH and Slin "off days" he runs ghrp-6 +MOD grf-129 at 300mcg twice daily. Also DES-igf-1 (100 mcg) pre-workout.

So he alternates Slin/GH days --> peptide/igf-1 days


The AAS could be as simple as test E 750/week + Deca 600/week and some low dose tren acetate.... switch compounds every 6-8 weeks...

I mean this could have worked for someone.....


-FF

actully im running a program simualr to this (hgh/slin protocol) super supplements are diffferent,but that dosent really matter as long as its legit gear...my weight has gone up a bit from this the last 2 weeks, and any extra type of weight i see more as water weight, cause the amount of carbs im eating, plus its not a perfect diet...getting the protein in, carbs, ect...but extra foods in there to..once i see that im gaining to much fat, Ill cut back on carbs, and lean up for a few weeks, then start over...

 

[TheGoldenChild]

248 - 268 lbs in 8 - 12 weeks , no change in BF %, well nothing that was noticed

FF

That's pretty impressive. I'mma have to look into this

 

[getbig12]

i am planning my next cycle i got enough npp and tren for 2 separate cycle but what would be the proper dosage for running them together and i prefer running low dose test prop because i dont dig the bloat look i get from high test?

 

[getbig12]

i have winni and var also

 

[Tinyshrek]

Prop 50mg eod
Tren 100mg eod
Npp 100mg eod

Boom! Throw in winny or var at 50-100mg Ed

 

[tr]

My planned and the biggest ever blast which starts next Monday:

First 9 weeks:
100 test prop/100 test ent/100 npp/50 masteron - EOD
25 drol / 25 var / 25 dbol - prew (5 times a week first 4 weeks)

then for last 9 weeks switch to:
50-100 prop / 50-150 tren / 50-150 masteron / 50-150 winstrol - EOD
50 winny / 50 var / 50 proviron / 1 oral tren (last 2 weeks before comp)

 

[Tinyshrek]

My planned and the biggest ever blast which starts next Monday:

First 9 weeks:
100 test prop/100 test ent/100 npp/50 masteron - EOD
25 drol / 25 var / 25 dbol - prew (5 times a week first 4 weeks)

then for last 9 weeks switch to:
50-100 prop / 50-150 tren / 50-150 masteron / 50-150 winstrol - EOD
50 winny / 50 var / 50 proviron / 1 oral tren (last 2 weeks before comp)

"mass" not "precontest" cycles lol... Just givin ya shit. Looks crazy though

 

[alyandfila]

My favorite so far:
1g Susta, 600 deca, 6iu growth split, first 6 weeks..
add 100mg anadrol/day for 2 weeks
drop the drol and deca
keeps susta and growth
add 100mg Var/day and 400 mast last 4 weeks

dude ... that sounds like the daddy right there, I am on Var at 80mg a day 10 days in and I LOVE IT

 

[alyandfila]

Best Ever for me

Was -

• sustanon - 1225mg week
• npp - 450mg week
• Dbol - 50mg ed
• Sust / npp were 14 weeks / dbol was 5

 

[tr]

"mass" not "precontest" cycles lol... Just givin ya shit. Looks crazy though

well the first part is mass, the second - more of precontest but I think you can grow from 175prop/525tren/525masteron/525winy as good (if not better) as from 700test/350npp/175masteron, it's just diet.

 

[tr]

BTW, question for Babybeast -

you've mentioned that last 5 weeks before comp you was taking no test at all. Have you noticed big water weight drop? Was you noticeable dryer?

Persnally I notice bigger different when I change my diet (less carbs, overall cals) than less/no specific compounds (test/drol/deca etc)

 

[Vanilla Mandingo]

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I've always thought the best cycles would be Test/19-nor/DHT/GH.. Simply insert what works best for you and adjust the dosages accordingly.

BB, if you're trying to move up a weight class insulin may be useful to you. Also, just get BW done every 8-10 weeks and you'll be able to keep things in line for the most part.

Best of luck!

When you say a "DHT" are you referring to tren, mast?

 

[BabyBeast05]

BTW, question for Babybeast -

you've mentioned that last 5 weeks before comp you was taking no test at all. Have you noticed big water weight drop? Was you noticeable dryer?

Persnally I notice bigger different when I change my diet (less carbs, overall cals) than less/no specific compounds (test/drol/deca etc)

It's hard to tell because at 5 weeks out a made a few changes, dropping test was one of them. I can tell you this, I didn't loose any significant amount of strength or fullness.

 

[FutureFreak]

It's hard to tell because at 5 weeks out a made a few changes, dropping test was one of them. I can tell you this, I didn't loose any significant amount of strength or fullness.

Hmm...funny as this is exactly what I have my guys do....

-FF

 

[BabyBeast05]

Hmm...funny as this is exactly what I have my guys do....

-FF

Yea you and a certain someone else have very similar views on contest prep!

 

[chris250]

Hmm...funny as this is exactly what I have my guys do....

-FF

I once dropped out my test the last 3 weeks, and to be honest with ya it was my best conditioning ever. I was 220lbs and very hard, and dry (dry and pretty full, couldve been fuller but thats just carbs and diet)

ive tried to keep test in the last few times (as suggested by a few friends) and im not getting as dry or as lean...hmmmm, maybe its time to change things up....

 

[chris250]

I've also noticed that more and more people are using masteron ace or enth for mass gains, back in the day if you could get masteron you would only use it the final 4-6 weeks....but everyone has it now, so I guess that explains why more people use it now all year around

 

[FutureFreak]

I once dropped out my test the last 3 weeks, and to be honest with ya it was my best conditioning ever. I was 220lbs and very hard, and dry (dry and pretty full, couldve been fuller but thats just carbs and diet)

ive tried to keep test in the last few times (as suggested by a few friends) and im not getting as dry or as lean...hmmmm, maybe its time to change things up....

I have also noticed such --- driest without, and if I have it in its reduced to VERY SMALL dose.

-FF