Best Use cases for Anadrol and DBol?

[mexbeast]

This brings up a point I’ve never really understood regarding gains from orals- I assume you lose the effect of the oral once you complete your cycle - but assuming you keep test high etc., do you lose all the gains from the oral? Or can you keep some of the gains post oral cycle? Because if you can’t keep at least some of the gains (assuming you continue training, diet on point etc)- what’s the point..?

Do you keep any of the gains afterwards..?

This took me back 20 years, so d-bol would allow me to train way harder, it was the same as taking an effective dose of ephedrine but the recovery was also amazing! I wanted to go back to the gym 2 hours after the workout, which meant i was fully recovered 1 or 2 days after the workout and that allowed me to keep pushing heavier and heavier weights. After the d-bol cycle i was able to push the same weights but for lower reps, so if i was benching 315 for 12 on d-bol after the cycle i would do 315 for 10 does that mean i lost strength? Not really just a little drive to push harder.

 

[d4ve]

300 mgs of Anadrol....per DAY?!?!?!

It's actually one of the few things typically dosed higher in clinical settings than among PED users. I think I've heard something around 3-5 mg / kg...which would mean a 100kg powerlifter would slam 300-500mg per day, lol.

I'm not saying 300mg isn't a lot - at all. I'm sure its effects are tremendously different in someone with anemia.

 

[Mufasa123]

This brings up a point I’ve never really understood regarding gains from orals- I assume you lose the effect of the oral once you complete your cycle - but assuming you keep test high etc., do you lose all the gains from the oral? Or can you keep some of the gains post oral cycle? Because if you can’t keep at least some of the gains (assuming you continue training, diet on point etc)- what’s the point..?

Do you keep any of the gains afterwards..?

This is from fools that are ubiquitous these days. Muscle is muscle - there is no unique oral aas muscle that magically deflates or is stolen by an influencer's magic elf in the night.

Orals are quick in/out so you get certain effects fast. You also lose certain effects fast. Let's just use dbol - mood, strength, big glycogen loading in muscles and lifts going up happens quickly. All of that is lost quickly unless you taper dose down (injectibles with longer esters build up and self taped over time). Regardless of tapering though those effects are going away with a drug.

Building muscle takes time. Most people run orals really short these days so how much real muscle will dbol build in 4 weeks - not a ton but neither nandrolone or test or primo or any injectible. Those temp effects are big right away and sudden loss makes people think they lost all their gains. Bullshit, the little muscle they built in a still there. People used to run orals much longer and give them time to build substantial muscle - say 12 weeks or over a summer. Whole different game. Now the temp effects still go away but you've built a lot more muscle so easy to see.

I'm not saying to run orals long or that it's best practice. That said, I've had a number of longer oral runs (maybe test or test/deca or test/tren base) and they work fine (my bloods don't get too bad but I acknowledge it's not best practice). I'll also note that the temp effect drop isn't as substantial on anavar or winstrol due to far less water and bloat. You do lose fullness and a pretty good look in a few weeks though but still muscle remains.

Hope that helps.

 

[Mufasa123]

This brings up a point I’ve never really understood regarding gains from orals- I assume you lose the effect of the oral once you complete your cycle - but assuming you keep test high etc., do you lose all the gains from the oral? Or can you keep some of the gains post oral cycle? Because if you can’t keep at least some of the gains (assuming you continue training, diet on point etc)- what’s the point..?

Do you keep any of the gains afterwards..?

Too late to edit. Wasn't calling you a fool, just to be extra clear and because you aren't. It's the people saying and spreading this shit with authority that are fools.

 

[OldManLogan]

Too late to edit. Wasn't calling you a fool, just to be extra clear and because you aren't. It's the people saying and spreading this shit with authority that are fools.

No worries! I totally followed your thought pattern. and it was very informative.

 

[LK3]

300 mgs of Anadrol....per DAY?!?!?!

lol
a long time ago on a waste of gear cycle.
really i was just eating raw powder from the bad with a butter knife.
i weighed it out a few times to see if i was eyeballing correct. lol

 

[MackCoach]

300 mgs of Anadrol....per DAY?!?!?!

Look it up
Medical studies use that much for months on end and the patients are just fine

Way too much individual bro science in this thread

Too many variables and too much physiological differences

I could easily step on stage ripped while on Dbol and Drol stacked

You get guys who eat too many carbs and are not thickly densely muscled are the one who are gonna cry bloat

Seasoned veterans with dense mature muscle and a proper diet are not gonna cry water retention

To the OP

Stack Dbol and Drol ate a “lower” dose of each while on a lean gainer

You’ll make the gains and you won’t gain fat

Mack

Oh and I I don’t think I’d worry about breaking a strength plateau while on a calorie deficit diet ….. like ….. what!?!?
You’re a bodybuilder right? Not a powerlifter?

Try halotestin with test suspension

 

[Sambo44]

Just a newb question as I read through the forums here- regarding DBol and Anadrol- what would be the smart use cases for either of these? I assume they are great to run during offseason/ growth phase in a relatively short cycle to add mass.

Is there a good or smart case for either during early contest prep, say, 12-13 weeks out? Or if you’re in a slight caloric deficit? Maybe to help break a strength plateau?

How do you use either one in your development/ approach?

Was going to order some DBol in case I crash my E2 with my current cycle, and the question kind of popped up in my head.

For me , neither, maybe anadrol if on cut ? If on a bulk ? therefore diet is everything and orals make you toxic ,then I’d pick neither one , I would never want to be toxic when trying to gain mass and weight , anadrol is notorious for causing appetite suppression, no oral’s ever for me anyway in a bulking phase , which is of course just caloric surplus as I’m sure you know, now if your cutting, I’d go with anadrol because of the same reason I wouldn’t use it in a bulk ,appetite suppression and being toxic , but when needing to be in a caloric deficit , anadrol could be a big help , some people don’t consider dbol or anadrol during a cut, that word deficit means I need all the help I can get lol ,for losing fat while trying to maintain muscle , forget about gaining muscle during a deficit for me anyway, so that’s when you might want to add more gear during a cutting phase, although I’d probably pick winstrol over dbol or adrol in a cut , but if in a caloric deficit, any steroid can be used as a cutting steroid , really no such thing as bulking or cutting steroids and like I said in a caloric deficit, I need all the help I can get , just my experience and opinion man

 

[KingOfSushi]

For me , neither, maybe anadrol if on cut ? If on a bulk ? therefore diet is everything and orals make you toxic ,then I’d pick neither one , I would never want to be toxic when trying to gain mass and weight , anadrol is notorious for causing appetite suppression, no oral’s ever for me anyway in a bulking phase , which is of course just caloric surplus as I’m sure you know, now if your cutting, I’d go with anadrol because of the same reason I wouldn’t use it in a bulk ,appetite suppression and being toxic , but when needing to be in a caloric deficit , anadrol could be a big help , some people don’t consider dbol or anadrol during a cut, that word deficit means I need all the help I can get lol ,for losing fat while trying to maintain muscle , forget about gaining muscle during a deficit for me anyway, so that’s when you might want to add more gear during a cutting phase, although I’d probably pick winstrol over dbol or adrol in a cut , but if in a caloric deficit, any steroid can be used as a cutting steroid , really no such thing as bulking or cutting steroids and like I said in a caloric deficit, I need all the help I can get , just my experience and opinion man

Holy run on

 

[tommyguns2]

^^^orals make you toxic? good grief.

Will prolonged use of orals negatively affect your liver values? yes, oftentimes.
Will prolonged use of supraphysiological amounts of test negatively affect your bloodwork? yes, oftentimes.

So, is test toxic? You best stay natural.

I really like anadrol. Lucky for me I don't get appetite suppression on it. I think it's a great drug, and is versatile. Plenty of people have used it in both a bulk/gain or cutting phase. Sure, not as common in a cutting phase, but certainly not unheard of.

 

[Siggy]

lol
a long time ago on a waste of gear cycle.
really i was just eating raw powder from the bad with a butter knife.
i weighed it out a few times to see if i was eyeballing correct. lol

Homeboy was using Anadrol instead of flour to make his pancakes.

 

[mexbeast]

Yeah, what is toxic?

 

[FuzzyFella]

Yeah, what is toxic?

 

[Sambo44]

Holy run on

Yeah that was a bit long winded lol , I think I agree with you on that , sometimes I just ramble on and on until I realize, dam it stay on topic and that wasn’t the question lol , sorry for long , sometimes off topic post , just got everything on the subject and not on subject off my mind in one post lol , he asked about dbol and anadrol , I gave him my opinion on the subject and yes my opinion on questions he never asked

 

[maxtrax]

Run 50mgs of Dbol and 100mgs of Adrol. All the benefits and very little negatives. Why people run them independent from eachother at higher doses I'll never understand.

 

[KingOfSushi]

Yeah that was a bit long winded lol , I think I agree with you on that , sometimes I just ramble on and on until I realize, dam it stay on topic and that wasn’t the question lol , sorry for long , sometimes off topic post , just got everything on the subject and not on subject off my mind in one post lol , he asked about dbol and anadrol , I gave him my opinion on the subject and yes my opinion on questions he never asked

Dude. Periods. Are you ok? Lol

 

[control]

I just gave away the rest of my anadrol. Good for strength, but doesn't do anything for my physique and I like T-bol better for strength (pre-workout).

Dbol was total shit for me. Lots of side effects.

 

[ScoobyPrep]

I rarely use obol to be honest. Mostly never. Probably only if someone came to me and said they loved it Yada yada otherwise I just don't program it.

Adrol I only use on weak body part days to bring them up along with other good to create a super saturated environment. In this manner you are only using it 1-3x per week. Id also use Tudca and glutathione with its usage.

 

[Fa Seeshus]

I liked to use orals AM only for about 4-6 weeks after stopping inj on a cycle. That way when you stop the orals. ALL androgens are out of the system and your body can actually recover natural T. (With appropriate PCT).

 

[Goodfella1988]

I always perferred Dbol over Drol. Dbol you get the overall great feeling/body high and personally builds better muscle that last/will stick around better compared to Drol. Once you stop taking Drol, anything gained is lost days or a week after discontinuing and thats if you can make it passed the appetite suppression from it.

Example: Dbol gain 15 lbs, once discontinuing you'll maybe 5-8 lbs and retain around 6-7 lbs. Drol gain 15-20lbs once discontinuing maybe retain 1-2 lbs. Thats just my overall experience with the two.